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Dave in Tenn:
{Thought of this in one of my sleepless nights, and thought I'd pose a question. It's really more of a 'test' than a sincere question. I have AN answer. It satisfies ME, but it might not be worth your time or attention.}
Ray's demonstrated over and over again that dealing with face-value 'contradictions' is a way to get to deeper truth. Maybe dealing with this face-value contradiction will yeild good results. Maybe it won't. Maybe it will turn into a babble and remind us all one reason why there is a no-teaching rule. :D
Here it is. I'll start by saying that the word translated WORLD is the same greek word, kosmos.
Joh 3:16 For thus God loves the world, so that He gives His only-begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him should not be perishing, but may be having life eonian."
1Jn 2:15 Be not loving the world, neither that which is in the world. If ever anyone is loving the world, the love of the Father is not in him,
The question is: Are these Spiritual matches, or no? And why/why not?
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on July 27, 2011, 01:46:44 PM ---{Thought of this in one of my sleepless nights, and thought I'd pose a question. It's really more of a 'test' than a sincere question. I have AN answer. It satisfies ME, but it might not be worth your time or attention.}
Ray's demonstrated over and over again that dealing with face-value 'contradictions' is a way to get to deeper truth. Maybe dealing with this face-value contradiction will yeild good results. Maybe it won't. Maybe it will turn into a babble and remind us all one reason why there is a no-teaching rule.
Here it is. I'll start by saying that the word translated WORLD is the same greek word, kosmos.
Joh 3:16 For thus God loves the world, so that He gives His only-begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him should not be perishing, but may be having life eonian."
1Jn 2:15 Be not loving the world, neither that which is in the world. If ever anyone is loving the world, the love of the Father is not in him,
The question is: Are these Spiritual matches, or no? And why/why not?
--- End quote ---
I don't see a contradiction.
I see one saying that God loves the world (His creation, His children, His people.) where as the other one is saying don't love the world (its carnality, its evil ways, its wickedness, its foolishness etc..) because if you love these things then you don't have Gods love. (loving everything that is good, the truth, righteousness etc..)
dave:
For God so loved, this is The Creator loving(deeply caring for) His creation.
We are to to not love (care for) the kosmos there is not growth in it for us.
Dave in Tenn:
Correct me if I'm not understanding you, Alex. You are saying that these are NOT spiritual matches because "the world" referred to is not really the same world. Am I getting you? Do you know of any other scripture where kosmos means different things?
Micah seems to be saying that these are not spiritual matches (corect me if I'm wrong). I think you're saying the reason 'why not' is that God does things that we are not to do. Are there other scriptural examples of this?
The question is: Are these "Spiritual matches", or no? And why/why not?
Focus on the question. This is not so much about explaining the verses. It's mostly a test about one of the Twelve Truths for Understanding Scripture.
lilitalienboi16:
I don't want to get into semantics and arguments of words. I'm not saying anything about whether they are spiritual matches or not. What I am saying however is they are NOT contradictions to one another. To me, they make perfect sense together and or apart. So you're not understanding me and not getting me. :)
You said; "Ray's demonstrated over and over again that dealing with face-value 'contradictions' is a way to get to deeper truth. Maybe dealing with this face-value contradiction will yeild good results."
I'm dealing with the "face value 'contradiction'" and telling you the deeper truth I see, the good results.
God bless,
Alex
Edit: I apologize for not having dealt with your question in bold, I simply don't know how to answer that because I don't understand it.
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