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dave:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on July 27, 2011, 02:39:23 PM ---I don't want to get into semantics and arguments of words. I'm not saying anything about whether they are spiritual matches or not. What I am saying however is they are NOT contradictions to one another. To me, they make perfect sense together and or apart. So you're not understanding me and not getting me. :)
You said; "Ray's demonstrated over and over again that dealing with face-value 'contradictions' is a way to get to deeper truth. Maybe dealing with this face-value contradiction will yeild good results."
I'm dealing with the "face value 'contradiction'" and telling you the deeper truth I see, the good results.
God bless,
Alex
Edit: I apologize for not having dealt with your question in bold, I simply don't know how to answer that because I don't understand it.
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Yeah, I agree with him! :D
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on July 27, 2011, 01:46:44 PM ---Here it is. I'll start by saying that the word translated WORLD is the same greek word, kosmos.
Joh 3:16 For thus God loves the world, so that He gives His only-begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him should not be perishing, but may be having life eonian."
1Jn 2:15 Be not loving the world, neither that which is in the world. If ever anyone is loving the world, the love of the Father is not in him,
The question is: Are these Spiritual matches, or no? And why/why not?
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No as a spiritual match is not about two scriptures having the same original Hebrew/Greek word, but rather, the same spiritual lesson or principle.
God loves the world for their benefit, in His Son. The world does not benefit when we love it, and worse, causes us to be entangled in it's sins that we are attempting to overcome with Christ in us.
Myms:
My understanding is as per Truth 5 (12 Truths to understanding the scriptures), everything in scripture has a higher spiritual meaning for our admonition. I believe the 'world' spoken about here refers to the 'world' (earth) within us - our mind / carnal nature - that is seperated from our heart / God's abode (heaven) by a thick inpenetrable veil. Only God can rent that veil and allow each one of us to stop living in a worldly way, earthly, carnal nature, and start to live in the Spirit, from our heart, with God on the throne of our lives. Just my thoughts. :) We really do follow in Jesus' footsteps: death, veil rent, resurrection to a life hid in Him etc.....
Dave in Tenn:
That's OK, Alex. That's why I asked the question. The forum is for discussing the things we learn at B-T.com. Learning how to 'discern' whether or not scriptures that we run across or are confronted with are 'spiritual matches' and what a 'spiritual match' is (or is not) is part of what is taught at B-T. We may not be called to teach, but we can develop some skill in this to keep ourselves 'taught' and not be blown about by every wind of doctrine.
Maybe this a puny attempt. Sue me. ;D But I just want to be a teeny-tiny bit pro-active. How many threads have I actually started in three years? ;D
I'll stop trying to interpret responses. Fair enough.
River:
This question makes me think about the study Ray did on love.
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