Here is one i always thought might be a possible witness to that verse in Luke.
Act 3:17 "And now, brethren, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did also your rulers.
Act 3:18 But what God foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that his Christ should suffer, he thus fulfilled.
G.Driggs
Ray uses this verse to explain that they (at least the 'rulers') were not completely acting in ignorance.
Joh 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
Joh 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Paul himself was a Pharisee before and is likely included in Nicodemus' "...WE KNOW...", I'm guessing.
Of course their 'knowledge' was at best incomplete--Jesus was far more than a teacher come from God--but were they 'innocent'?
Paul 'stood by' the stoning of Stephen (Acts 22:20) thinking he was doing the RIGHT thing. He also said he was 'ignorant' during the time he was persecuting the church, but I don't think he thought of himself as innocent.
Just some loose threads of thought.
I agree Dave. They knew who He was (just like the Pharisees of our day know who He is), but they did not fully comprehend what they were doing.
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, which God has hidden, predetermining it before the world for our glory;
1Co 2:8 which none of the rulers of this world knew (for if they had known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory).
We are all guilty of crucifying Jesus because of our sins. No excuses, no one is innocent.
G.Driggs
"We are all guilty of crucifying Jesus because of our sins." I do not agree with that statement. Christian ministers and priests also make that statement, and I have found them all to be false teachers.
God the Father crucified and killed Jesus. Only the Great God had the power to kill the Son of God.
We humans have an exceedingly weak heart. We all have sinned, willingly. We are not innocent. There is no good in us. We cannot even take the next breath when God has decided we have had our last breath. We are dust.
We did not have the power to kill our Creator, the Son of God. God the Father is responsible for that just like He is responsible for everything that has ever been.
I do not know anywhere in Scriptures where it says God killed His Son, but it does say Jesus volunteered.
Joh 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
Because of our sins.
Gal 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
Gal 1:5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Is it just me or does this sound like EVERYBODY?
Act 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
Act 4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
Act 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.
If you have a problem it's not with me, it's with the Word of God. I agree God is responsible, but you seem to quite often deny the world is accountable. God being responsible does not get the world off the hook. Absolute truths and relative truths CAN coexist, they are both truths.
G.Driggs