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jennie:
I don't have any great insight into this question. My family is pretty poor but rich if it makes sense. We have food to eat, we pay our bills, have a home to live in and we have each other. We don't make much money but we are rich in so many ways. Maybe if God has blessed you financially He has given you the opportunity to help others with your good fortune. I know that this sounds simple but maybe it will help. Jennie

gmik:
In no way do I consider myself the chosen. I don't know that we are to worry about that or to presume. Won't we all know only at the Great White Throne Judgement??  I went and reread Ecclesiates.  What a great book. Alll is vanity.  But He turns to the Lord.  Just read Lamentations also. After all the calamity in Israel, he can say  Great is Thy Faithfulness!  Wow.
Maybe we are to just live normal, quiet lives, greatful for what He has given us, not comparing to anyone else. We are all rich in America compared to most of the rest of the world.  Someone on my street may have more riches than me.  Where is the line?  Nowhere. We are to live our lives as unto the Lord.  To do justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with the Lord thy God. Micah tells us what God wants.  All else is fluff.

ciy:
I agree with what many are saying.  My post was in reference to the original article.  It is talking about the chosen is it not?  Paul was certainly concerned with being a chosen.  He was pressing on so that he could obtain the better resurrection.  We are not to worrying about anything, but we are to fix our eyes on the goal set before us and that goal is to be one of the chosen.  I want to be called, chosen, and faithful.  If I said otherwise, I would not be truthful.  I want to be saved in the end so as to be in the first resurrection.  I realize the only way to do that is to be conformed by the renewing of my mind.  To have the mind of Jesus, and to do this means believing in the word and not in the world or anything in this world including my own understanding.  

If we say to be rich in worldly things prevents us from be chosen then we become proud in our poverty.  My point is to say not to look at the things of this world but seek first the kingdom of God and let the chips fall where they may.  At the same time believe that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him and know that everything is of God and to count everything joy.  If we do this then we do not write articles saying everything is going to be miserable here on earth but you are going to enjoy it.  That is not true.   This is a hypocritical statement until you seek first the kingdom and know in your heart everything is about you becoming the image of Jesus and that everything that happens is of God.  Only then can you count it all joy.  Only then can you rejoice in the Lord always.  If you tell me before hand in a worldly opinion that everything is going to be miserable then the tendency is to not seek first the kingdom.  Jesus said seek first the kingdom and all things that the pagans run after will be yours also.

Sorry for my inability to communicate what I am trying to say.  Maybe some of this is making a little sense.  I do understand that our flesh must die and our spirit live.  I just believe that when that is actually happening at some point things will look up as in 3 John that "above all things, I wish for you to prosper and be in good health, even as your soul propers."

Love to all in all things.
CIY

mongoose:
Topaz,  Welcome to the forum.  I pray it will be as big a blessing to you as it has been to me.  We are all searching and would love to have you come fellowship and learn with us.

mongoose

PS - great posts!

ciy:
Mongoose

I am only quoting scripture:

Mt 6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things
 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

I do not see where we can say "all" does not mean "all".  That whoever seeks first the kingdom is included in this.  I believe we (me) get so religious so quick that we continuously build up the flesh by our own understanding not realizing the awesome goodness of God.  Remember it is all about others.  The true believers life is to encourage people to ask about our beliefs that are causing the hope they see in us.  The firmness of a completely joyful outlook on this life and the age to come. We cannot imagine a God that can bless us in this life with "all these things" and still be one of the chosen.  I believe if we do not use our own understanding and seek first the kingdom we will find some as yet uncovered mysteries that we could not imagine.

I have the questions.  Not the answers.

CIY

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