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musicman:
What it implies is that God imposed an order to how life became what it is.  I have come to find out over the last few years that evolution is unquestionably true.  Just not the way we are told in popular science journals.  There is ample proof that we share common ancestry with the great apes.  But there is no way that large scale changes happened gradually.  If this post remains long enough for folks to read it, they might be interested in checking out Perry Marshal's Cosmic Fingerprints.

G. Driggs:
That Cosmic Fingerprints website is very interesting, thanks for sharing. I couldnt help but to notice he says a lot of the same things Ray has said about creation, time and cause and effect.

I really liked this quote:

God: Not Confined by Time

My sons and the atheists are assuming that God is confined to time in the same way that we are. But the Bible and the equations of General Relativity tell us that the entity that brought the universe into existence is not confined in time like we are, or the way that the universe is.

God can move and operate in at least two dimensions of time. In two dimensions of time, time becomes a plane, like a sheet of paper, length and width. In a plane, you can have as many lines as you want and as many directions as you want.

It would be possible for God to dwell on a time line running through a sheet of paper that’s infinitely long, and that never crosses or touches the timeline of our universe. As such, God would have no beginning, no end and he would not be created. Sound familiar?

Dennis Vogel:

--- Quote ---There is ample proof that we share common ancestry with the great apes.
--- End quote ---

We share genes and DNA with a blade of grass but that does not prove we descended from one.

indianabob:
Thanks for the reasoning Dennis,
That we share similarities with other species only demonstrates that we have the same intelligent designer, creator. God uses what works in the environment that He created for us. The mental capacity of the great apes doesn't evolve outside of what God has programmed into their brains. They have what they need for the purpose that God assigned to them. Any learning they display is greatly influenced by their tutors, mankind. Once they are returned to the wild they and their offspring revert to the natural state.
Indiana Bob

DougE6:

God patiently waited 5 billion years after the earth was created for the ones, His future family, His sons and daughters, to be born, which is the point of it all! The entire cosmos was created for the bringing about of God's greatest work, US when we are completed in His image. I think it is fascinating that God could do such an act, in such a way that seems utterly glorious to those whose eyes are opened, in showing His eternal power and greatness, yet the immense ages and interactions of natural law allow coathooks for the darkened understanding to hang their garments of unbelief, so they can merrily go on in their sin.

BUT all these immense ages of time give me pause. too.  If God was willing to be that patient, and exert that much time to make things come to fruition, maybe we REALLY ought to strive to make our calling and election sure. Sometimes I think people who know eternal fire is a myth tend to minimize the glory and height of this prize, to be in the First resurrection. If God is as patient as He has demonstrated, then He might be a LOT more patient than we realize in applying judgement to sin and sinners, in the Next life. The Scriptures testify that it is a glorious thing, this Salvation, that we seek and take hold of. I speaking for myself, have a whole lot of fear and trembling when it comes to God, because he has demonstrated that He has a timetable that is WAY beyond us... and even though He will achieve His objective of complete reconciliation with everyone, there is no assurance that that process may be a VERY long time, compared to the time scales we are used too. Just some sobering thoughts when you are tempted to take it too lightly, what you have been given.

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