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If You Are Afraid of What Evolution Implies, Don't Be
Deborah-Leigh:
We need no longer follow after the theories nor implications of men of theological worldliness. All have fallen short of the glory of God so we need no longer glory in one another, nor compete to be the greatest in the Kingdom of God.
All things are ours.
“My how times have changed. Tell a person to “go to hell” today, and it is an insult of the highest level. Tell a person back in the dark ages of England to “go to hell” and he would probably go to a cool cellar and bring some potatoes for dinner. For that is where they stored potatoes-in hell.” LOF 16A ~ :D
Quantum Science is understanding better what it means that God will be all in one, not because God is not THE ALL and ONE, and doesn’t change, but IS, from Whom ALL IS, WAS and SHALL BE, from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Arcturus
Stacey:
Antaiwan, hey. I don't want to turn Musicman's thread into a Q and A for Stacey. I'm gonna reply to your response and leave it at that. P.M me if you have anything to add. Hopefully my reply here will clarify and be sufficient enough to show I haven't really fallen off the wagon so to speak. I know and totally agree with what you said and the scripture you mentioned.
With what heart did Paul desire to serve and love Christ? The one he had before or after the Lord encountered him on the road to Damascus? Absolutely not the one before his conversion. This is why the "huh" in my first reply to Craig. How can anyone with a un-wanting heart receive the prize from God?
It was still his heart only it was a new one that God placed in him to began the great work I mentioned in my first reply to Craig. It was not the Jesus hating heart he had before the Light of Christ showed him the error of his ways but the new heart that God gave him to pursue, go after, long for, run the race to the finish with the heart that did want the prize with every ounce of being more than anything else in the world.
Isn't it gonna basically work the same way for everyone else? First the Light will show the error of our ways, then the change of heart and then the pursuit of the prize? Isn't that what we are all doing right now? Pursuing the prize with new hearts of understanding? If I am wrong about this then I am totally wrong on almost everything I have learned. I hope not.
To sum it up, I most likely, probably, maybe didn't but absolutely surely must have :) , some how, some way to some degree or another, misunderstood Craig's words! :) Ooops, sorry for that Craig.
It's not the first time or the last time I will not get what someone says around here. Maybe I'll learn to hold my fingers (tongue) better but, consider this a fair warning: I might reply in error! :)
musicman:
--- Quote from: Stacey on November 14, 2011, 12:11:21 PM ---Musicman, so you believe in evolution huh? That's great, glad that's working for ya. I don't. Never have and I don't reckon I will unless God decides I will. I looked up the guy who wrote the book you mentioned. He has some interesting stuff but I don't care to listen to it. Short, very short attention span.
--- End quote ---
I guess I do Stacy. How's it working out? Probably a little better than my sense of humor. Not to worry. There is nothing random about evolution and it has nothing to do with copying errors being held on to that may be beneficial because copying errors probably never are beneficial. What I find evolution to be is very foward thinking and shows an absolute need for design. It also probably happens way too quickly on a time scale to even hint at random mutation. How could bacteria have developed a way to digest nilon if it hasn't existed that long? First off, we can pretty well accept that Adam was not the first human being, his seed could not have been what we know to be as ancient man as ancient man did not live hundreds of years. Closer to 20 or 30. There are similarities between the great apes and man that are more convincing to me than similar DNA.
indianabob:
Musicman,
Lots to think about in your message above.
One thing comes to mind in your remark about bacteria developing a way to digest nylon if it hasn't existed that long. No problem my friend, the bacteria have what are called by research scientist, Cryptic Genes. That is their genetic structures are designed to be adaptable to changes in their environment. A certain bacterium can exist on pond scum in the dark jungle for centuries and then when exposed to daylight and certain industrial waste materials, suddenly begin to activate genetic materials that were always present but needed sunlight to stimulate adaptation.
My experience with this phenomenon was with the remediation of TNT contaminated soils around the Joliet Arsenal, in Illinois. We simply added sugar in the form of dilute molasses to the soil and the existing bacteria ate the TNT explosives converting them to air and water. Similarly Nylon is composed of Nitrogen, Carbon, Oxygen and Hydrogen; or air and water. So breaking it down with the necessary catalyst is really simple. Not easy, but simple.
Apparently God anticipated all manner of answers to our needs. Or else God doesn't let us invent stuff that He can't remove from the environment when He is ready. I think that we will find that that includes Radiation poison.
Ole Indianabob
musicman:
I think what we are finding is that all life has little adaptative qualities built in. But what I don't think people realize is that we have so many genes for organs that we don't have. Countless genes are inactive. And junk DNA is not junk after all. I think it is clear that changes were rather sudden and not gradual at all. I think life always had the capabilities do change. And I think the process is very much like what God would create. The ingrediants were always there.
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