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More "free-will" questions.
Deborah-Leigh:
Great catch Dave! Thanks.
I see repentance in the same light as maturity. Non of us can repent, through self determination. Likewise no one can grow up through self will.
That we repent in increments, as Ray expounds, for me, is like us growing in small increments also.
No one gets to suddenly become mature which Ray defines as being ...a way to act that is more beneficial to yourself and others than a child would act.
In so learning to love your neighbor as your self, you forgive as you are forgiven, which is extremely beneficial to oneself!
This doesn't mean that the process through which we are brought to salvation, is a walk in the park. We all know it is not!
Arc
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: darren on November 27, 2011, 02:50:52 AM ---Question: If I looks at a women and I say to my friend in that split second, Man I like to blank her. The moment is over and then forgotten as quickly as it came out of my mouth. knowing that it would never happen anyway did I have real lust in my heart. Did I sin. I guess my question is what is the meaning of lusting at someone. are the words lusting at, and lusting for have different meanings and does both words come out of my heart.
Darren
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Matthew 12:34 "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."
Ain't calling you a viper darren, just showing you what Christ said about the way in which we speak.
God bless,
Alex
cjwood:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on November 27, 2011, 02:45:00 PM ---
In so learning to love your neighbor as your self, you forgive as you are forgiven, which is extremely beneficial to oneself!
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i bolded and underlined the statement from deborah's post because it is something i have been struggling with. especially the underlined part, "as your self". i am learning that i have been loving myself as i would my neighbor. i am always criticizing myself for one reason or another, and generally feel i have a lack of respect for myself because of this or that. this is definitely an area i feel my Father is showing me. i cannot truly love my neighbor as myself, if i do not love myself. thank you arc for following the spiritual urge to post the words i needed to hear.
claudia
claudia
Gina:
Very insightful, Claudia! Thank you for that gem.
River:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on November 28, 2011, 03:45:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: darren on November 27, 2011, 02:50:52 AM ---Question: If I looks at a women and I say to my friend in that split second, Man I like to blank her. The moment is over and then forgotten as quickly as it came out of my mouth. knowing that it would never happen anyway did I have real lust in my heart. Did I sin. I guess my question is what is the meaning of lusting at someone. are the words lusting at, and lusting for have different meanings and does both words come out of my heart.
Darren
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Matthew 12:34 "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."
Ain't calling you a viper darren, just showing you what Christ said about the way in which we speak.
God bless,
Alex
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James 3:10 Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be.
But yet it is! Why do we spend so much time trying to define sin when we do sin? Who among us will be any less of sin by quoting scripture or trying harder not to sin? A man is a slave to these things. The Christian church has for so long tried to act above sin but yet lays right in sin and the whole world sees it and knows it and this is why they scoff at it. We don't have to like that we are filthy rags but we shouldn't deny that we are. Just the way it is.
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