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patmokgoko:
2 Samuel 7:15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it (mercy) from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
Just curios to know how the mercies of God can be taken away from any person when His mercies are new every morning and endureth forever.His loving kindness are forever.Was it just a temporary thing, I mean the withdrawal of the mercies?How can God take His mercy away from someone.Forgive me if you discussed this before , just give me a reference, God Bless

Gina:
This verse comes to mind:

In a surge of anger I hid my face from you for a moment, but with everlasting kindness I will have compassion on you," says the LORD your Redeemer.  (Isaiah 54:8 )

I agree, Patmokgoko, His mercies are new every morning, so maybe this has something to do with the relative and the absolute?

Maybe "mornings" and "moments" aren't what they appear to be.  I don't know.  

Gina

patmokgoko:
Thanks Gina for your response, however I don't think it's got anything to do with "relative/absolute but rather with translations, i found another version saying "kindness" but still to me it doesn't make sense whether we say , kindness/lovingkindness/mercies/love how can God take it away from anyone of us?

JohnMichael:
Hi Patmokgoko,

The Lord decides who He will have mercy on and who He won't.

Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

Paul was quoting Exodus here.

Exo 33:14 And he [the Lord] said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.
Exo 33:15 And he [Moses] said unto him, If thy presence go not with me, carry us not up hence.
Exo 33:16 For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? is it not in that thou goest with us? so shall we be separated, I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth.
Exo 33:17 And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name.
Exo 33:18 And he [Moses] said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.
Exo 33:19 And he [the Lord] said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.

It is the relative versus absolute. The absolute is that the Lord's mercy endures all (Ezra 3:11; 1 Cor 13). The relative is that on a particular person, He decides when/who/why to show mercy for that given person - that is His rightful decision as He knows what's necessary for that person. I hope that makes sense.

In Him,
John

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: patmokgoko on December 06, 2011, 09:25:04 AM ---Thanks Gina for your response, however I don't think it's got anything to do with "relative/absolute but rather with translations, i found another version saying "kindness" but still to me it doesn't make sense whether we say , kindness/lovingkindness/mercies/love how can God take it away from anyone of us?
--- End quote ---


The 'unending love' that this translation is referring to simply means 'favor'. God had bestowed great favor onto Saul but took it away for his disobedience.

Most often, the same person will find themselves on both sides of the following proverbs at different points in their lives. The same happened with Saul:

Proverbs 11:27  He who earnestly seeks good finds favor, But trouble will come to him who seeks evil.

Proverbs 12:2  A good man obtains favor from the LORD, But a man of wicked intentions He will condemn.

Proverbs 13:5  Good understanding gains favor, But the way of the unfaithful is hard.


Hope this helps,

Marques

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