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who to pray to??
santgem:
That's true, Jesus prayed to God, He called Him Father..
Also in this verse,
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
Stephen is full of Spirit at that time and the Spirit inspired Stephen to pray. We know that the Spirit is truth and surely the Spirit guided him, that even though Stephen saw both the Father and the Son, he prayed to Jesus. He prayed to (resurrected) Jesus.
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: santgem on April 07, 2012, 01:59:28 AM ---That's true, Jesus prayed to God, He called Him Father..
Also in this verse,
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
Stephen is full of Spirit at that time and the Spirit inspired Stephen to pray. We know that the Spirit is truth and surely the Spirit guided him, that even though Stephen saw both the Father and the Son, he prayed to Jesus. He prayed to (resurrected) Jesus.
--- End quote ---
Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." John 10:30
Stephen had a vision, not a reality. If the Father is God and Jesus is God, then you have two Gods. Yet the scriptures teach that there is One God. An idea of a Binity is just as wrong as an idea of a Trinity.
Dave in Tenn:
Just pray. If He can't hear you and know your heart, what's the point of speaking to Him?
And don't do it like the pharisees and hypocrites do it. :)
santgem:
It doesn't matter whether Stephen had a vision or literal saw the event, the mere fact that Stephan is full of Spirit. Stephen saw the glory of God, It is the Glory that Stephen saw. He both saw the Glory of God and Jesus and yet he called Jesus to receive his spirit and not the God the Father whom he call to entrust his spirit. I did not say this to lower God the Father but to show that without Jesus without going first to Jesus you can not go to the Father. Again, it is not us going to Jesus but the Will of God that we to go to Jesus.
The below event also explaining by Stephen regarding the God of glory that appeared to Abraham. In another event Ananias explaining that Lord Jesus appeared to Saul in his way to Damascus.
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Act 7:55-56
And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran, Act 7:2
And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, [even] Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. Act 9:17
Why we have to worry if the Father is God and Jesus is God. Can all your worries add a single moment to your life? Mat 6:27
Or are we another Phillipp's when he say.
Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied." John 14:8
Jesus replied, "Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don't know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking me to show him to you?. John 14:9
Don't you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words I speak are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me. John 14:10
Just believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or at least believe because of the work you have seen me do. John 14:11
"I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father. John 14:12
You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, so that the Son can bring glory to the Father. John 14:13
Yes, ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it! John 14:14
"If you love me, obey my commandments. John 14:15
Now it is Jesus who said to ask anything in His name and He will do it. Still doubting. Is anybody can come to Father without Jesus?
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. John 15:5
Is it a burden to us in this time that we do not know who the One God Is? For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. Isa 55:8
But we have this, the image of God, Is it not sufficient for us this time? Or can I say to wait for the moment to L. Ray Smith until the full revelation is given to Him.
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth; And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phl 2:5-11
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2Cr 4:4
jeetkunejimi:
Hi there fellow traveller,
I personally believe that when I pray my prayer has been CAUSED by God Almighty to be uttered from my lips for a divine purpose, so I guess God already knows who I'm addressing even though I will usually say some thing like, "Father God through your Son Jesus Christ my saviour", but then again I also believe when a Buddhist monk or a Muslim, etc, prays that it is done via God Almighty CAUSING them to do so, also for a divine purpose.
God Almighty CAUSES all prayer! So He knows who we are rapping to even if we don't. I'm excited when I prayer because I know God has CAUSED me to do so, and so I know something is going to happen at some point, even if I'm just driving along and I just want to check in with God Almighty and let Him know what I'm thinking for my benefit (of course He already knows).
I hope that helps you in some way, I know when I talk to my children or my wife that I don't always need to say their names first then again some times I do need to call out their names. It will be what it will be, God's will is always done. Peace be with you amid all the turmoil that is so necessary to perfect us :).
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