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newgene87:
I've been battling this for a lil while now. Ever since Ive been set free from the "God consists of a Trinity" mindset; now I wonder who do we pray to. I see from Jesus example, we are to start, "Our Father..." so that's to the father. And I also take into mind that was before his ressurrection. So his position is higher than at that time: so since Jesus was a Rabbi, The Jews knew to refer to God as Father (Deut 32:6)(Jer31:9)Now, Jesus goes on to say, "I am the way the truth and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me" (John14:6) so that puts Christ in the forefront. So do we pray to Jesus, the Son of God, also the Mediater?  Or do we pray to the Father? I hope the question makes some type of sense. And I've read Rays paper on prayer and that's great. But still, so we pray to the Father or the Son? Thanks

mharrell08:
FYI: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,13571.0.html

Similar thread and subject.

newgene87:
I've read that thread and it still doesn't do it for me. Not so much do I use the magic phrase "in Jesus Name" but who am I talking to when I pray: the Father or Jesus Himself. Since He sits at the right hand of the Majesty on high (Heb1:3). I know that can crossrelate if  Jesus IS the Father, so I'm not trying to go there cuz I know Ray is in the works of that wonderful teaching. But just for now, who do I pray to?

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: newgene87 on December 28, 2011, 12:51:27 PM ---I've read that thread and it still doesn't do it for me. Not so much do I use the magic phrase "in Jesus Name" but who am I talking to when I pray: the Father or Jesus Himself.
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The same principle applies...it's superstitious to believe you must pray to one or the other. No one knows the Father except the Son and vice versa [Matt 11:27, Luke 10:22, John 6:44, John 14:6]. To pray to One is to pray to the Other, to know One is to know the Other, to believe in One is to believe in the Other, etc.



Marques

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello newgene87

I don't know how much this can help you out. I can only share what I can share.

Maybe it might help you find comfort and courage to know that I too have been through this painful maize of shadows and doubts, fears and timidity of not knowing who to pray to and not wanting to be incorrect or to supposedly offend the Father if I address prayer to the Son or to overstep the mark if I go over the head of the Son, to pray to the Father. I learned that such thinking is nonsense and only comes out of the limited thinking of a mind bent on leaning on its own understanding and desire to follow human protocols that are fear driven.

I subsequently wondered if you pray to Christ, would the Father of Jesus not know what you said.....or if you pray to the Father of Jesus, would Christ not know what you said? Of course not~ ;D

If you pray to Jesus Christ, would the Father be upset or feel diminished, less important or ignored? Is God who made Jesus Christ, who is to save us all, so little? Of course not ~  ;D

Father and Son are Spirit.  The two are One.

Maybe it might help if you speak to both and do as the one, which is as Jesus did. This is not a formula or quick fix. The mind may still  try to beat you up and make you fear that you are doing something wrong and offending someone pretty high up in Heaven, which is nonsense too~ :D

It might help to be doing as Jesus did....Pray to the Father of Jesus, as Jesus Himself did, in imitation of Jesus, knowing that only through the Spirit of Christ in you, can you ever approach the Father of all.  ;D

So, not ignoring Jesus or elbowing Him out of the way, but by imitating Him, in worshipful obedience in great reverence and gratitude  for Him, ..continue being as the follower of Jesus, to copy your big Brother.  8)

Enter into your closet, which is you, your self, and speak to Father, in the act of obedience to Jesus, who told you to do so.

Where the Father is, the Son is too. Don't fret.

Obey, Pray and Believe are not do it yourself tools of the trade. I know how the mind can disturb and confuse and upset our allegiance to both Father and Son. Which came first...the chicken or the egg...kind of confusion the mind likes to play.

Father and Son are one. Don't let the trickery of the limited mind, play fear and doubting tricks with your heart or soul. Who are you going to believe?...your mind or Jesus?

Father hears your thoughts, knows all and everyone and everything,  and Son guides your heart, for He is the Author and Finisher of your Faith. If that doesn't help...then patience, patience, patience....pray anyway~ ;D Don't lean on the limited understanding of the human mind. The Mind of Christ is not subject to human limits and fears.

Nothing escapes Father. He is still going to hear you, know exactly where and how you are, and what you are doing and thinking. :D ;D Be sure, nothing can separate you from His Love.

Arc

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