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who to pray to??
Gina:
Excellent replies. I used to worry about that stuff too and then it occurred to me how many prayers have been answered that I addressed to Jesus.
Ray's study on Are You Afraid of God helped me see that I was afraid of God (the Father). But Father and son are exactly alike in purpose, goal/aim and desire: to save all humanity.
They're going to respond to prayers the way the other would.
Some have pointed out correctly that Jesus prays to the Father and instructs us to do that.
But then I thought, what if I do pray to Jesus having prayed that way out of habit for so many years rather than address the Father? What's the difference seeing the two are one in spirit? It's exasperating to think about sometimes.
Eph 6:4 Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up [as opposed to down, haha] in the training and instruction of the Lord.
Nome sayin?
John from Kentucky:
Ray really got me thinking when he brought up this "Enigma of God" subject---Who and What is God? What food for thought!
When I was a youth, I was a Catholic, and the good nuns taught me and I believed God was a trinity.
I was in the Worldwide Church of God for about 25 years and I thought God was a binity, two Gods in one, the Father and the Son.
Now, I think there is One God. That the Father and Jesus are One and the Same. I am not a teacher. I don't yet know the right words. The Father and Jesus seem to be different ?????????? of the One God. The Father is preeminent. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. We go to the Father through Jesus. Jesus prayed to the Father. So, I guess that is good enough for me.
Now that I think God is One, prayer is easier. It concentrates the mind. Thinking that there were two Gods and praying to two Gods seemed a little crazy.
newgene87:
That was beautiful arc and you were absolutely speaking my mind. That is exactly how I felt about praying to Jesus I felt I was diminishing the Father. Thank you all. You helped me out alot
Revilonivek:
Can Jesus be the son of God and still be God himself? that is the question for me. Have to wait till Ray explains in his upcoming paper. The bible says we are to believe that Jesus is the son of God. Not God himself? I Jesus didn't say for us to pray to Jesus. He said to pray to the Father. I think it's a matter of understanding who the Father is, in order to know how to Pray unconditionally. Have to wait till Ray explains. Keep in mind, In the new testament, Jesus always referred himself as the prophet. Prophet is the highest office next to God. Maybe God came as the Son, to demote himself lower to the level of man and get the message across. If so, then who was doing the talking to Jesus when He prayed, got baptized, and talked to at the cross? It's mind boggling if you ask me.. I'm ready for some clarification.
Denise
Deborah-Leigh:
So glad everyone came together to give very beautiful answers to you newgene87 ~ :) 8)
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