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Dave in Tenn:
As far as I know, there is no law that says space itself cannot move faster than the speed of light, only that objects moving in space cannot.  Space ain't nothing.

I don't know if that has anything to do with the point of the discussion, but it should add some confusion.   :D   

DougE6:

Dave from Tennessee, nice observation. If you make little dots on a balloon, so they are quite close together, as an unblown balloon is small and tight quarters, then blow that balloon up, so that its diameter grows outwardly at a constant rate, the surface area of the balloon (two dimensional space) will cause those dots to move apart faster and faster, in direct proportion to the growth of the surface area of the balloon.  It is not the dots that have the intrinsic motion, it is the balloons growth that is happening.  The dots are along for the ride, and evermore recede more and more rapidly from each other.  You could use, in three dimensional, space, the raising of a loaf of bread with rainsins.  The raisins furthest from the center would be moving apart the fastest.

That is a simple analogy to universal expansion and the rate of speed of galaxies.  The universe itself is expanding, and as it grows larger, even if it was expanding at a constant rate, the galaxies contained within WILL be carried along at ever increasing speed. Since it is space itself that it is expanding, the galaxies at the periphery will be carried much more quickly than the ones further in. When we talk of the motion of these galaxies, we are not talking about this motion as a property of the galaxy, it is space itself that is enlarging.

So whether Einstein was incorrect depends on very narrow definitions.  His field equations are still the bedrock for understanding of these things. I think he had a good handle on these things, though obviously things like dark energy and dark matter, have post dated him.

And just in my opinion only, I cannot see how one could even say that God "moves" If God is everywhere, what need of movement? Where would He go? ;D If I am on Alpha Centauri, He is there. If I am on earth, He is there.  If I am on the furthest Cephid Variable, He is there. He has no need to move. He is so far above any mundane concept such as speed, that He is not to be included.

These thoughts are fascinating. I am glad He gave us minds that would be intrigued by them and search out the wonders of the universe. It shows us His eternal power and Godhead, truly.

Joel:
Jesus did things accompanied by a word or words, He is the Word made flesh.
Psalms 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.

Matthew 8:8 The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.

The Creator has no problem tuning up the creation.

Zechariah 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.

Joel

Gina:
I don't know about God going faster than the speed of light.  That's an interesting concept.   Would God ever have to go faster than the speed of light?  Hmmm..  He creates light and He is the Father of all lights.  Yet He is the "Light of the world."  He is Light.  So, if anything, He'd be traveling at the same speed as light and not less.  Right?

Just thinking out loud.

Gina:
This is another fascinating concept:  That God would not have to move at all because He is everywhere.  But everything that has life is moving.  That's what time is, right?  Movement?  Otherwise, when God becomes all in all, we'd all be like Han Solo in Star Wars--just frozen stiff -- the way Ray described it, remember?  I don't like that thought.  Ughh.  Makes me cringe.

As stated above, God is Light, and light moves.   Here's how the Amplified bible translates Jehovah's question to Job.  It's not so much the verse as it is the footnote.  It's revealing:

Job 38:19
Where is the way where light dwells? ...,

Footnote:  Job 38:19 How, except by divine inspiration, could Job have known that light does not dwell in a place, but a way? For light, as modern man has discovered, involves motion (wave motion). Traveling 186,000 miles a second, it can only dwell in a way.


And as we all know, Jesus is the way.  Isn't that great?

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