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Gina:

--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on February 06, 2012, 05:47:37 PM ---
--- Quote ---My husband calls BT a cult and Ray a guru
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A cult guru trys to control followers and usually gets rich as a result.

I think we all agree that is not the case here.

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Completely agree.

tinknocker:

--- Quote from: eggi on February 06, 2012, 07:59:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: tinknocker on February 06, 2012, 01:57:34 AM ---Food for thought;

Galatians 5:4
You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace!

tinknocker

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He doesn't disagree with that, according to him. He says that we obey the literal commandments because of the Holy Spirit, not because we need to do it in order to be saved.

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Hey Eggi

That verse was not given to debate with others but for you to chew on. Here's what God tells us about sharing the truth;

2Timothy 2:23-26  But reject foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they breed quarrels. The Lord's slave must not quarrel, but must be gentle to everyone, able to teach, and patient, instructing his opponents with gentleness. Perhaps God will grant them repentance to know the truth. Then they may come to their senses and escape the Devil's trap, having been captured by him to do his will.

Before my eyes were opened I would have answered exactly as him. I remember thinking I was a pretty good person all in all. Since my eyes have been opened to the truth the Holy Spirit has been showing me just how corrupted and evil I really am. I am the worst sinner of all. It's not what I'm doing physically to break the law, but what my mind thinks and reacts too that breaks the law. Without Jesus I'm doomed and this is what the Holy Spirit has been burning in my heart and my mind. This is how the Holy Spirit writes in our heart and mind the spiritual laws by showing us every thought and action where we break the law. We will not fulfill the law in this body but by grace alone will we be saved.

I apologize if I confused you before. I keep thinking everyone is on the same wavelength. I still in the learning process of being able to teach but I think /know I have a very long way to go.
I don't post that often but I'm here almost everyday to do a sanity check. So often I too feel alone. I thank God that He opened my wife's eyes also

tinknocker

Rene:

--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on February 06, 2012, 05:47:37 PM ---
--- Quote ---My husband calls BT a cult and Ray a guru
--- End quote ---

A cult guru trys to control followers and usually gets rich as a result.

I think we all agree that is not the case here.

--- End quote ---

An additional thought on this subject:

As a group of like-minded believers, we are not out soliciting members (followers), nor are we overly concerned about the membership's "revolving door" on the forum.   We know that God is in control and He will bring whomever He pleases to the BT website.


Eirik, regarding your comments, we (the members of the forum) are only a "click" away from you, so please feel free to avail upon us whenever you need someone to fellowship with or just need some encouragement. :)   

René

jingle52:
Hi forum,
maybe my post was not read in the spirit in which I posted it. I started off with that unhappy sentence, just to encourage Erik in that no matter what others in our family or even friends think or say, (my husband is a man stumbling in the dark and is spiritually dead and does not believe in Christ) we can only praise God for bringing us to BT and Ray's teachings and fellowshipping with like minded people. I am the only one in my household who longs to know the truth and come to a better understanding of the Scriptures, and that remark only points to the unhappy fact that not all are drawn to God and given the gift of faith in this age.
Blessings to all

Deborah-Leigh:


 God can, never the less, work very swiftly to turn on the Light! ;D

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