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free will, free choice?...confused!
jccarterjr:
I am not interested in myth. Just truth. In truth I made a choice to give my will over to HIM. I gave up my free will when I asked GOD to make me his servant, so that I may better serve his will, not mine. I made a choice to give up my free will. Since making that choice, I have the same choice everything, Gods way or well I think we all know.
Foxx:
--- Quote from: jccarterjr on February 12, 2012, 10:01:29 AM ---I am not interested in myth. Just truth. In truth I made a choice to give my will over to HIM. I gave up my free will when I asked GOD to make me his servant, so that I may better serve his will, not mine. I made a choice to give up my free will. Since making that choice, I have the same choice everything, Gods way or well I think we all know.
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but that's the the thing, choices and free will are not the same thing. Choices are based on something, free will says you make choices not determined by anything which is impossible. Free will says nothing caused you to make that choice but something always causes your choices. They came from somewhere. Furthermore how can free will exist if God gave you the ability in the first place? Its all a contradiction you see. You have will that CHOSE to give to him but that will was not free.
jccarterjr:
I never said will was free. If I will myself away from God there is a price because he chose me as his child, so I hear his call and I come to him through prayer and study of the bible so that I may better serve his will, because I choose to do so. My will to do what I want leads to evil every time. It forces me to pay prices I don;t want to remember. Will is not free. It costs and if you want to pay the price, the choice is yours to make. The choice is free, but everything else has a price. His will includes a price already paid by Christ, my will goes straight to oblivion.
Craig:
--- Quote ---I am not interested in myth. Just truth. In truth I made a choice to give my will over to HIM. I gave up my free will when I asked GOD to make me his servant, so that I may better serve his will, not mine. I made a choice to give up my free will. Since making that choice, I have the same choice everything, Gods way or well I think we all know.
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There sure is alot of "I's" in that statement. Did God do anything? Doesn't seem like there is much room for Him.
Craig
jccarterjr:
Who do you think guided me here? But before he could lead I had to follow.
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