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Punishment of the wicked
Gina:
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--- Quote from: Gina on February 20, 2012, 09:47:09 PM ---AK4
This is the "bits and pieces" ;) that God has shown me regarding how the wicked will be judged. Have you had an opportunity to read it? It's very comforting.
THE LAKE OF FIRE - Part XII
GOD JUDGES THE WORLD IN A POND
WHENCE THE WORD LAKE?
Interesting word, this word "lake." The word lake in Rev. 19, 20, & 21 is "limen, which comes from Strong’s "[#3040--limen] (through the idea of nearness of shore); a POND (large or small) -- lake."
And the word limen means "a harbor—haven, the fair havens" (Strong’s Greek Dictionary, p. 151).
A pond? God judges the world in a pond? Yes, God judges every unrepentant, unbelieving, wicked person that has ever lived (billions and billions and billions of people) -- The WHOLE WORLD OF HUMANITY (who are not in the first resurrection) in a " pond." ...
Is not even the definition of this word and its root, comforting? And so even in this most solemn setting of God’s judgment there is a hint of safety and security.
Keep reading: http://bible-truths.com/lake12.html
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Please read the post to Marques. Ive been with US for years and yes i know the elects purpose thanks to God. Im so glad it is not the way they (babylon) think
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Thanks Anthony. I'm sorry I misunderstood you. All we have to remember is,
Luke 12:47 And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act as he would wish him to act shall be beaten with many [lashes]. 48 But he who did not know and did things worthy of a beating shall be beaten with few [lashes]. For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required; and of him to whom men entrust much, they will require and demand all the more.
Consider yourself sufficiently beaten. hehe Just kidding, Anthony.
We're all learning just like you. Thanks for your patience and your kind reply. :)
(And I see someone beat me to this verse.)
adiamondintheson:
Arion and Rene....
You have hit the nail on the head on this issue. I can't help but think about Paul (Saul)... so fervent in doing what he thought to be the right things (killing), etc. but when God struck him down on the Damascus road... he certainly didn't get up the same man!!! In one, bright moment of time, he SAW the truth... and with it came the change of heart that was needed. He saw himself as he truly was and didn't hesitate to tell others... "I was the WORST of sinners"... I can't help but think there came a real saddness in his heart when he thought of all the people he'd persecuted!! Now that is true repentance... that is a true vision of the heart of God. I believe when we FACE the CHRIST... we will KNOW in the blink of an eye where we were WRONG and that is where the change will come about!! Then will come our true repentance, the sorrow for all we've ever thought and done. Then... we will KNOW the good from the bad, the right from the wrong... and make the right choice from a heart that truly SEES the truth!! He's a God of LOVE and desires that we KNOW and find the pleasure in all He's created and done and planned so perfectly!! Isn't that a blessing???? Makes me so happy!!! I'm sure that the heart of Paul had to overflow with total gratitude and love for God... just in being led to SEE the truth... and it set him FREE!!! Wow!!
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: AK4 on February 21, 2012, 05:26:37 AM ---
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[quote ---Where did you get this kind of teaching from? 'Seem like an eternity of suffering'? Where do we read of the Elect wishing judgment on the wicked to seem 'like an eternity of suffering'?
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I knew someone will take this the wrong way. Please pay attention to all my words and notice i never said what what you implied--in all due respect.
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AK4,
I read over your first comments numerous times before answering and quoted your words 'seeming like an eternity'. I know what you said, but that doesn't change the fact that it is unscriptural. That might be the real reason why you assumed 'people would take it the wrong way'.
--- Quote from: AK4 on February 21, 2012, 05:26:37 AM ---First off i never said the Elect wishing Judgment on the wicked to be eternal. Notice i said i cried and prayed that it wont be that way and that since i know the plan of God and since that it is Love it wont be that way. I only implied that it may seem like that to them the same way it may feel to some of us in this lifetime that it is an eternity away--Jesus/ coming. (IT ONLY SEEMS THAT WAY)
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You cried and prayed it won't be 'that way' but since you know the plan of God, it won't be that way...right?
--- Quote ---I was shook to my core and cried and had to go for a walk (actually this happened twice). It literally brought me to tears and the fear was overwhelming.
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But then you say this later on:
--- Quote ---The part i put in bold and underlined.....it still shakes me to the core and it still does bring sheer terror at first thought. But anyway, witnessing this verse with many, many other verses throughout the Word, I believe God is showing me what i prayed for.
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So it 'won't be that way' (whatever way you are implying but not outright saying) but then it 'still shakes you to your core'. Which is it?
Let me be frank with you: This post reminds me of Bill Weiss and his testimony (that made him cry and pray that it won't be 'that way'). You've taken a single rhetorical question from Ray ('has any one of you also seen the punishment of the wicked?') and turned into a testimony of some kind of agonizing experience for those in judgment. And yet, seeing that you know the Elect will be doing this judging, for some strange reason you have not, or will not, picture yourself causing this agony to those in judgment. I'm sorry but that's a load of crap.
The conclusion of this matter is simple: For those of you who want to know how the wicked and unbelieving will be judged, just ask yourself one simple question. How do I want to judge and teach these people righteousness? And if you can answer that question with a clear conscience, with the Holy Scriptures as a guide, then you are more than on your way to understanding.
But if this causes you agony and makes you upset, you may need to seriously re-read this site. Because you are still holding onto some Babylon baggage that you need to get rid of.
Marques
P.S. I've made my point and will not comment further on this thread. It's not based on any article on BT but just someone's vision, that only they have seen, but he feels he is being misunderstood. How surprising...
thetruth:
Hello Again
Would like to share this quote because i think its the truth:The conclusion of this matter is simple: For those of you who want to know how the wicked and unbelieving will be judged, just ask yourself one simple question. How do I want to judge and teach these people righteousness? Marques.
This is how I believe Gods Will ....will be acccomplished.
AK4:
--- Quote from: Gina on February 21, 2012, 09:07:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: AK4 on February 21, 2012, 05:37:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: Gina on February 20, 2012, 09:47:09 PM ---AK4
This is the "bits and pieces" ;) that God has shown me regarding how the wicked will be judged. Have you had an opportunity to read it? It's very comforting.
THE LAKE OF FIRE - Part XII
GOD JUDGES THE WORLD IN A POND
WHENCE THE WORD LAKE?
Interesting word, this word "lake." The word lake in Rev. 19, 20, & 21 is "limen, which comes from Strong’s "[#3040--limen] (through the idea of nearness of shore); a POND (large or small) -- lake."
And the word limen means "a harbor—haven, the fair havens" (Strong’s Greek Dictionary, p. 151).
A pond? God judges the world in a pond? Yes, God judges every unrepentant, unbelieving, wicked person that has ever lived (billions and billions and billions of people) -- The WHOLE WORLD OF HUMANITY (who are not in the first resurrection) in a " pond." ...
Is not even the definition of this word and its root, comforting? And so even in this most solemn setting of God’s judgment there is a hint of safety and security.
Keep reading: http://bible-truths.com/lake12.html
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Please read the post to Marques. Ive been with US for years and yes i know the elects purpose thanks to God. Im so glad it is not the way they (babylon) think
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Thanks Anthony. I'm sorry I misunderstood you. All we have to remember is,
Luke 12:47 And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act as he would wish him to act shall be beaten with many [lashes]. 48 But he who did not know and did things worthy of a beating shall be beaten with few [lashes]. For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required; and of him to whom men entrust much, they will require and demand all the more.
Consider yourself sufficiently beaten. hehe Just kidding, Anthony.
We're all learning just like you. Thanks for your patience and your kind reply. :)
(And I see someone beat me to this verse.)
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Thanks for the kind words also. ;)
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