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thetruth:
Hello ak4
Yes,I really wasnt specific there was i. I didnt mean to come across as saying it would be a matter of hours or a 24-hour period.But the unjust will have the process come upon them all at once.And even when i say that I havent really studied as to be dogmatic about exact events .And to be honest I probably should have not posted without doing so.But oh well it only leads to having to go back and explain yourself...lol..However I do believe the Body the Christ=elect... will have a say so as how long the process takes as the Body of Christ.After all the body has to be were the Head is ....huh.And as the Celestical Supreme Court of the Universe..Dont you know you will judge the world!

Nice to have fellowship with you ak4.I am sure others will give you some MEAT on this subject!God Bless ....thetruth.

thetruth:
Hello Marques

I agree ...I just wasnt making myself clear enough.I was re-posting the same time you posted to try to make my self more clear.

Kat:
Hi Anthony,

As you, I have wondered about this as well. I think about how when a person dies, they will be raised back up with the exact way of thinking and beliefs as when they died. So they will face their Maker at their resurrection with whatever knowledge they had when they died.  What will people think about what is happening? Will they be in sheer terror from their own wicked full minds with ideas of hell? Some certainly should be, but not all.

I can't help but wonder if people won't create their own degree of torment from the depth of evil they have in their own imagination? I mean I wonder if to the degree that the wicked minds dwells on or imagines evil, either in what is practiced, but also in what is believed/think is to the degree a person will be fearful of what could be in store for them. But it is likewise to that degree that a person would need to be purged. Thinking of it this way, it's easy to see how some will need to be cleansed more than others.

I can think that it will be a process with each individual having to go through life experiences of which they will have to be corrected and learn right from wrong. Of course it would seems that some would need to be dealt with harsher, as I do not believe that anyone would be allowed to be violent, I could see this as part of the work of the Elect. But it would be a life of these learning experiences to unlearn wrong and learn righteousness.

But whatever it will be like I know that God has it all worked out to take care of each and everyone exactly to the most minute degree with what is needed to correct and teach righteousness to every single human being in the very best way.

Just what is my part of my thoughts when wondering about these things.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Gina:

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--- Quote from: AK4 on February 20, 2012, 01:10:41 PM ---And so the scriptures that say stuff like treat others how you want to be treated, reap what you sow, as you judge you will be judged etc etc I begin to see how their judgment may be.  No its not in their sick way of thinking but mostly in how they view eternal and how it will seem to them when God will purge such thoughts from their hearts and minds---it will seem like an eternity of suffering.
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AK4,

Where did you get this kind of teaching from? 'Seem like an eternity of suffering'? Where do we read of the Elect wishing judgment on the wicked to seem 'like an eternity of suffering'?

Too often, we ask 'how is God going to judge the wicked and unbelieving'...when the real question is, 'How will WE (God AND His Elect) judge the wicked and unbelieving?' ['Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? - 1 Cor 6:2]. Why would we do a complete 180 and go from loving thy neighbor to making our neighbor suffer for what 'seems' like an eternity?

I don't know what you saw when you prayed to God to show you this punishment, nor will I speculate. But I am curious why you didn't ask how YOU will be judging the nations and why you weren't shown what YOU will be doing. I think if you did, the answers would have been completely different.



--- Quote from: thetruth on February 20, 2012, 02:50:10 PM ---Were the unjust get the hammer all at once. All at once will cause weeping and nashing of teeth. Just some thoughts thats all!Will have to give some more thought to the question thats for sure.
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There is no fruit of the Spirit that can be learned 'all at once'. They all take much time to be taught and put into practice.

Also, weeping and gnashing of teeth is not always associated with pain. Sometimes it is a result of jealousy and guilt:

Ps 37:9-12  For evildoers shall be cut off; But those who wait on the Lord, They shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while and the wicked shall be no more; Indeed, you will look carefully for his place, But it shall be no more.

But the meek shall inherit the earth, And shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. The wicked plots against the just, And gnashes at him with his teeth.

Acts 7:51-54   “You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you. Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who foretold the coming of the Just One, of whom you now have become the betrayers and murderers, who have received the law by the direction of angels and have not kept it.”

When they heard these things they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed at him with their teeth.



Marques

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Like apples of gold in settings of silver.

Gina:
AK4

This is the "bits and pieces"  ;) that God has shown me regarding how the wicked will be judged.  Have you had an opportunity to read it?  It's very comforting.

THE LAKE OF FIRE - Part XII

GOD JUDGES THE WORLD IN A POND

WHENCE THE WORD LAKE?



Interesting word, this word "lake." The word lake in Rev. 19, 20, & 21 is "limen, which comes from Strong’s "[#3040--limen] (through the idea of nearness of shore); a POND (large or small) -- lake."

And the word limen means "a harbor—haven, the fair havens" (Strong’s Greek Dictionary, p. 151).

A pond? God judges the world in a pond? Yes, God judges every unrepentant, unbelieving, wicked person that has ever lived (billions and billions and billions of people) -- The WHOLE WORLD OF HUMANITY (who are not in the first resurrection) in a " pond." ...

Is not even the definition of this word and its root, comforting? And so even in this most solemn setting of God’s judgment there is a hint of safety and security.

Keep reading: http://bible-truths.com/lake12.html

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