> Introductions, Announcements, and More of Ray's Teachings
Is this really marriage?
arion:
This is one of those things to be honest that doesn't seem that hard unless we've got another angle of some sort.
1st witness;
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
2nd witness;
Mat 19:5-6 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
3rd witness;
Eph 5:31-32 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
There are many witnesses to what God says that marriage is. That being said I don't see in scriptures any civil authority blessing or giving license to a marriage union. This is a spiritual union and not a civil one. The activists however desire the dignity which God bestows on the marriage union, after all how can what they do be a 'sin' if they are married? Unfortunately I don't expect our civil authorities (don't care what political party they belong to) to uphold that which is good, decent and right anymore. They can have their 'civil' unions. God will deal with them in His way and His time as He does with us. Better not expect me to approve of it however as I won't.
Marky Mark:
--- Quote ---So I am trying to establish what is marriage in His eyes. Nothing political but how we deal with it from a spiritual perspective.
--- End quote ---
Heb 13:4 Let marriage be honourable in all, and the bed undefiled, for, fornicators and adulterers, God, will judge.
As an ambassador of Christ we are told to come out of the world and to not partake of the affairs of this world.When one worships the creature and his ways, via going against the Word of God, what we have left is a reprobate mind,which in turn,is not a righteous way of thinking and acting. What we as children of God call sinful,the world calls traditions of men. This is the worlds way of turning the lies of Satan into their own misunderstood and unscriptural truths of the walking dead.
A sin is a sin no matter what type it is,its all a falling short of the Spirit of God. The Lord will cause all to repent and come to Him when the time comes,no matter what the abomination.
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Peace...Mark
JohnMichael:
From the Scriptures, God only honors the covenant forged between one man and one woman (see Arion's post). Therefore, any sexual intercourse/activity outside of that covenant is a sin (man with man, woman with woman, or man with woman).
Marriage is legally what the government says it is. Those religious groups that try to get involved in politics are just taking Satan up on the offer that Christ refused ("I will give you all the kingdoms of this world..." Mat 4:9).
Plus, one thing to keep in mind is what the Lord inspired James to write:
"For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all" (James 2:10).
Therefore, if someone lies, they are guilty of homosexual acts. If someone hates, he is guilty of murder. Etc, etc. It really brings home Christ's commandment of, "Judge not, lest ye be judged..." (Mat 7:1)
Just some Word for thought :)
In Him,
John
Shawn Fainn:
The problem isn't so much the sin, as it is the attitude behind it. We should be able to perceive and judge that.
While homosexuality is obviously a sin and I don't condemn homosexuals, I do take offense to the attempt to socially justify the behaviour by perverting the definition of marriage.
Isaiah 5:20
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
20 Wo [to] those saying to evil `good,' And to good `evil,' Putting darkness for light, and light for darkness, Putting bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.
Joel:
Not a equal rights issue for me, but a choice between good and evil, and a moral judgement.
Judges 17:6
In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Joel
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version