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Time and Eternity
whyisthatso:
Sorry Gina, I did not mean to be overbearing in any way. Please forgive me.
Gina:
No problem. It's just that Ray's body is barely cold.
I'm going to go listen to an audio of Ray's.............
See ya.
patmokgoko:
While still at it, did either Hagee or Kennedy bother to write back to Ray after that Ray had refutted them?
doug:
--- Quote from: patmokgoko on May 30, 2012, 01:31:42 AM ---While still at it, did either Hagee or Kennedy bother to write back to Ray after that Ray had refutted them?
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I believe this link will answer your question patmokgoko:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,11612.0.html
Dave in Tenn:
My favorite bit. The Scriptures don't just say that His Government shall never end, but that the INCREASE of His Government shall never end. INCREASE is CHANGE. Nothing static, and everything only increasingly wonderful.
"Now one of my favorite verses, because this verse says very little and yet it says a lot. We could meditate for some time on this.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting (aonian) Father, The Prince of Peace.
v. 7 Of the increase of [His] government and peace [there shall be] no end…
Dr. Strong gives a very brief definition there, it just says that word mean increase. But he uses the English word so let’s see what the definition is, because this word is not contradictory like these time words are all contradicting.
American Heritage
Increase - to become greater or larger, to multiply, reproduce, to make greater or larger. The act or process of increasing. The amount or rate by which something is increased.
Synonyms: increase, expand, enlarge, extend, augment, multiply, these verbs to mean to make or become greater or larger, sometimes suggesting steady growth. To extend, to lengthen in space or time or to broaden in range.
All of these lengthen, multiply, increasing, growing when will that stop? J. Preston Eby, at the end of the eons and all these other turkeys, at the end of the eons when eternity takes over. What do the Scriptures say? Never. “No end.”
Now it would be nice if we had some twenty or thirty specifics about this, but we don’t. But think about what it is saying, increase, maturing, growing, expanding, becoming bigger, larger, greater in quality, quantity. Isn’t that a marvelous teaching! All of these Christians reject it. We are going to be like Han Solo frozen in a block of metal, for all eternity. There will be no changing, nothing will happen. That’s what they said is the definition of eternity, nothing happens. Unbelievable!
Let’s see what Webster has to say about that.
Increase - progressively greater as in size; to make greater, enlarge, augment, multiply; mean to make something greater, increased, used transitively implies progressive growth in size amount or intensity; addition or enlargement in size, extent or quantity; something that is added to an original stock; augmentation, growth, etc.
All of this growth and getting bigger and better and grander, when does it end? Never. We are told these things only happen in time and there will be no time. What a damnable doctrine. How marvelous is God’s word."
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