Hello,All
I am really reluctant to post this because I don't want anyone to get offended over it.But hopefully that want happen.Because this is just My thoughts on the subject Sons of God......Sons of Seth?Which Ireland stated he believed it was fallen angels.Which many disagree and that's fine .Just ask for the grace to share my thoughts that all.
Jerry Bulla
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Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:55 PM
interesting subject!
Would like to comment on it.As Ireland shared something I have found pretty interesting myself .
I want to say first that this is a tuff topic in regards to the Sons of God because people seem to be pretty dogmatic about either side.
What is it Sons of God ....Angels..fallen or the Sons of Seth?
Ray said this:Here's what Ray has said regarding the matter:
The angels CANNOT MARRY (they have no 'marriage apparatus' if you know what I mean). Yet we are told in Gen. 6:2, that "they took them WIVES of all which they chose." To have a "wife" one must be "MARRIED." The sons of God and the daughters of men are BOTH HUMAN.
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"...they have no marriage apparatus if you know what I mean." Ha! See now that makes a lot of sense.
{Jerry-quote]
With the understanding that The Scriptures do say 'Angles are not given in Marriage"..maybe cause there all Masculine?
And as some would say"A statement of fact is not a statement of limitation"
Could it not be that since they were fallen that they obtained a "apparatus".?
Jesus was Immortality...And came to be man and unless I am missing something he had a "apparatus'?
One could believe that Adam and Eve was Immortal before they partook of the forbidden fruit? since Adam said this is Bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.And never said anything about "blood of my blood"
so just maybe just like Adam and Eve may have went from Immortal to Mortal,maybe fallen angles went to immortal to mortal with a apparatus.? ,Just a thought?
[Jerry-quote]
But to see what Scripture says is how we make our choices on what to believe not mortality.
Gen-6-4 Its obvious by context that He is talking about giants {heb-nephilim-fallen or mighty ones]in verse 1 it says ..when men{Adam] begin to multiply.
then in v-4..Why did jump from men to Giants?..There are beliefs that Angles can be good size dudes.They turned the stone away for Jesus!
Now as we read Gen-6-4-8
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days;Gen 6:4 There wereH1961 giantsH5303 in the earthH776 in thoseH1992 days;H3117 and alsoH1571 afterH310 that,H3651 whenH834 the sonsH1121 of God
H430 came inH935 untoH413 the daughtersH1323 , and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Notice that was h430 used in verse 4!
[Jerry-quote....just maybe we could think the following?]
1.v-4 -God did say "Everthing after its own kind"And the Angles knew this .so its obvious they sinned against God!Jude 1-6..I think shows this.
Jud 1:6 Besides, messengers who keep not their own sovereignty, but leave their own habitation, He has kept in imperceptible bonds under gloom for the judging of the great day.
2.v-5-8-One could draw the conclusion that just maybe Noah Family found grace because his seed was the only ones who had not been made hybrid you know half immortal/mortal. and why did he say he would destroy MAN,and Beast,creeping things,birds of air?Maybe they were corrupted by the fallen angles as well... having a apparatus? Some carnality might find animals sexy?
I believe Lot knew of what God thought about this mixing seed stuff when He offered His Daughters to the the carnal people of Sodom and Gomorrah.And I believe its why God said to kill women .children and all many times in Old Testament.
In Job 38-7-Reads..
Job 38:7 When the morningH1242 starsH3556 sangH7442 together,H3162 and allH3605 the sonsH1121 of GodH430 shouted for joy
H430-our Angles...... not men?
H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhîym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very)
Are we to say that the Sons of Seth were with the morning stars shouting for joy?It seems to me God is speaking of something before men were around?see....v-4.
Psa 82:6 IH589 have said,H559 Ye are gods;H430 and allH3605 of youH859 are childrenH1121 of the most High.H5945
Again we have H430...Angles being referenced as children of God.then verse 7;
Psa 82:7 ButH403 ye shall dieH4191 like men,H120 and fallH5307 like oneH259 of the princes.H8269
Ray always said if Christendom taught it it probably isn't right.And I know they teach Sons of Seth.
So just my thoughts that's all.God Bless!