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newgene87:
so, just finished reading Ray's paper on the "Mark of the Beast" and gotta say i love it. no doubt, it's like my 5th time reading it (total). I understand I am the beast and you are the beast, WHY I am the beast: the falling away, my house on sand falling, leaving my first love and all that Great yadayada. BUT... why 666??? meaning, WHY did John use specifically those numbers?

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of man (i know not A man, but MANkind); and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. " (Rev 13:18)

other questions are: WHERE is the wisdom there? how are we counting (spiritually) this number of the beast (which is me)? and why o why is it "six hundred threescore and six"?

Now i may be looking too deep into this; but our beloved Ray taught me to PAY ATTENTION TO THE WORDS. and from what i see, he expounded on the verse being Man, and not a man, but not the issue on the number. Can anyone help me out. Thank you

Eugene to a NewGene

newgene87:
might i add; i heard there's another rendering of it that it's not exactly 666, but it could be 616 or something like that. regardless, i know that, so if someone does bring that up; please just expound the spiritual significance of 666 or 616 and the counting of it

indianabob:
For significant numbers try this. No guarantee of rightness.

777 is the number of completeness of God's plans.

666 is the number of man's ways in exercising his own will, doing what seems right to man.

It's just an old saying that may have no real meaning, so handle with gloves.

Bob

newgene87:

--- Quote from: indianabob on July 12, 2012, 08:43:10 PM ---For significant numbers try this. No guarantee of rightness.

777 is the number of completeness of God's plans.

666 is the number of man's ways in exercising his own will, doing what seems right to man.

It's just an old saying that may have no real meaning, so handle with gloves.

Bob

--- End quote ---

sooooo as i put these new heavy duty gloves on * :P slips on*, i will grasp these sayings, look at them with a bewildered look ( ??? ??? ??? ???) and ask the question why oh why 777? and 666 again?... like is there a spiritual match of scripture for it. now let me lay it down. i dont want to, ya kno, drop it like it's hot, cuz its not, but...frustrating  :D

thanks tho Bob

Gina:
Not sure how you came up with "777" being the number of completeness, Bob, when I already told you that it's two 7's.   ;D

If I may....

I've been told that the spirit behind the three 6's is like this: 

66 books of the bible = the sum of God's word [two 6's down, 1 to go...]
6th day of creation = First Adam was made by God. 

Tah dah!
Logically, that makes no sense and there seems to be something missing; maybe it's because we have the "letter" and we have "man"; but a man can read all sixty-six books of the bible every day for the rest of his life and still come up short of being "complete" because reading God's word will not impart the Holy Spirit; only God can do that. 

Here is WISDOM, Eugene----------God's saying to us:  You're one taco short of a combination plate.  (Or to put it delicately:  "You're not fully clothed.")

the end.

---------------------------Years ago my sister explained that the number 2 means "witness" to the truth of a matter. 

Still someone else told me that 8 means "new beginning" since the week ends or completes on the 7th day and a "new" week begins with the 8th day, basically.

And that's all I know, Eugene!  That's all I know.   :)  Which isn't much when you think about it.   :P

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