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666???
newgene87:
--- Quote from: Gina on July 12, 2012, 09:19:57 PM ---I've been told that the spirit behind the three 6's is like this:
66 books of the bible = the sum of God's word [two 6's down, 1 to go...]
6th day of creation = First Adam was made by God.
Tah dah!
Logically, that makes no sense and there seems to be something missing; maybe it's because we have the "letter" and we have "man"; but a man can read all sixty-six books of the bible every day for the rest of his life and still come up short of being "complete" because reading God's word will not impart the Holy Spirit; only God can do that. ...
--- End quote ---
oh but Sweet Gina, Ray teaches there are actually 49 books of the bible. quoted from his transcript on "how we got the bible"...
"I said there was 22 books written by 66 AD and by the end of John’s ministry, he added 5 more.
22 +5 = 27 + 22 OT books, all total 49.
7 x 7 = 49 = total completion.
That’s how many books there are suppose to be, that’s how many we have. So we’ve got the complete Bible.
There are some verses that are screwed up. We are going to go over some of those. But we have the complete Bible. In proper numbering it’s 7 x 7, count the number in the King James, how many are there? 66, whose number is that (man, Rev 13:18). The proper numbers are, 22 in the Old Testament and 27 in the New Testament 7 x 7 = 49. That’s how many it should be, we do have the whole Bible. There are either quotations, statements or they alluded to (in the New Testament) that pertain to over a thousand Old Testament Scriptures. Not one quote, from the Apocryphal books that are in the King James or the Catholic Bible or all Bibles before 1885.
Then Catholics played games with it for a while. They saw that 66 was kind of ominous, but the Protestants came up with 66 and the Catholics said, boy that doesn‘t sound right. So at one point they added 14, so it was 80. Most had 80 and even the later additions all had 80.
But the Apostles had it right, it was 27. They knew how many the Old Testament had, they could just go to the local Rabbi and ask him, it was 22. 27 and 22 is 49, that is 7 x 7. [End quote]
so yea, that throws out the 66 books thing. which actually means, man CAN be complet reading the scriptures :P. now, understanding and revelation is only from God of course :D. but thanks Gina. the random info on 8 and 2 was interesting i guess. still doesnt fulfill the 666 deal ::)
Eugene
the truth:
Hello Newgene
I think of it this way.
1.FIRST 6=Man
2.second 6=thoughts=mind
3.third 6=mans actions
its in these three actions that complete a man.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and sentence of judgment was given unto them; and I saw the souls of them who had been beheaded because of the witness of Jesus and because of the word of God, and such as had not done homage unto the wild-beast or unto his image, nor had received the mark upon their forehead or upon their hand; and they lived and reigned with the Christ, for a thousand years.
upon their forehead or upon their hand;Christ will renew our minds=renewed actions.
Gina:
You are absolutely right Eugene.
newgene87:
--- Quote from: the truth on July 12, 2012, 10:04:39 PM ---Hello Newgene
I think of it this way.
1.FIRST 6=Man
2.second 6=thoughts=mind
3.third 6=mans actions
its in these three actions that complete a man.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and sentence of judgment was given unto them; and I saw the souls of them who had been beheaded because of the witness of Jesus and because of the word of God, and such as had not done homage unto the wild-beast or unto his image, nor had received the mark upon their forehead or upon their hand; and they lived and reigned with the Christ, for a thousand years.
upon their forehead or upon their hand;Christ will renew our minds=renewed actions.
--- End quote ---
alright, that got me step closer to an understanding butttttt, how did that equation work out with the 6's being man's thoughts and actions?? thanks for your input Truth, i was waiting on you because you put some deep stuff. now, i will put back on my handy dandy snorkel and dive into this post of yours but can you help me out? how did you come up with that equation?
Thanks
Eugene
doug:
Hey Eugene -
Through my study of the scriptures I have found if the number 6 has any symbolical or spiritual meaning it probably should identify with work. The number 6 signifies a theme of man's work illustrated throughout scripture:
God worked 6 days to create the universe, man was created on the 6th day, men are appointed 6 days to labor, a Hebrew slave was to serve 6 years and be released on the 7th, 6 years were appointed for the land to be sown and harvested, etc. And the number 666 of Revelation 13:18 identifies with the unbeliever non elect who essentially are working to get right with God.
You are correct in saying that the number is not a number of "a" man, but the number of man. Just like we don't translate Christ as the Son of a Man... He was the Son of Man. He was of mankind. In other words He was a human being.
And here also in Rev. the same word is used, so it would have to mean that it is the number of man, the number of mankind, the number of the human race. Anyone who is an unbeliever symbolically has the number 666 on his forehead. It is assigned to the non elect who is destined to the lake of fire after the first resurrection. To make this more apparent of mankind working for their salvation, here are a couple of examples:
In Zechariah 13 in verse 8: Two-thirds I will cut off and destroy, but one-third..." and then it goes on to speak about the redemption of the one-third. The number two-thirds, if written as a decimal, is .666666, and if we just use the first three numbers, we have 666. We read about David, when he defeated the Moabites, that he caused them to lie down in three lines. Two of the lines he put to death. One line he spared, and they served him. David there was a type of Christ, the two-thirds a figure of those who are under the judgment of God and the one-third a figure of those who are the elect. In II Kings I we read of Elijah, that he was sent for by the wicked king of Israel. And a company of men came to take him and he called down fire from heaven, and they were destroyed. A second company of men came to take him, and he called down fire from heaven and they were destroyed. A third company of men came to take him, and plead for mercy, and they were spared. Again we have two-thirds being destroyed, and one-third being spared.
Now with what I have shared... I wouldn't take it as "thus saith the Lord" but what I have observed, and so it could possibly change with newer understanding with others comments.
doug
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