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Who will we be?
Dave in Tenn:
This is neither 'official' nor complete, but here's what I think of when I think of someone 'teaching'.
He or she is making a conscious effort to get someone else to follow a train of thought to get to a conclusion.
In fundamental terms, is Ray under that understanding a 'teacher'? Yes he is, imo.
The obligation of a teacher is to spend the time and energy necessary to teach. The obligation of his/her student is to spend the time and energy necessary to follow that train of thought to its conclusion--whether or not the student ultimately understands or agrees with the conclusion.
I don't know how many 'pages' are on B-T. Certainly many hundreds...probably more than a thousand with all the transcripts, emails, etc. Clearly Ray spend the time and energy necessary.
What about my part as a 'student'? At the very least, I've put in the time and energy necessary to follow his train of thought. I'm unapologetic in saying that I agree with and find not just scripturally accurate but spiritually compelling about 98% of his 'mini-conclusions' and 100% of his major conclusions--depending on how one defines 'mini' and 'major'. :D I define them for myself. (I can't say that about every forum post...far from it). Of the 100%, in terms of importance, I knew about 10% before I got here. In terms of background scripture, I knew about 70%. Still, everything hangs together just fine even minus 2%. :D I'm pretty much teaching myself at this point. And NOBODY can live my life for me. That's really where we learn.
Comes a time, I think, when 'teachers' (those who make a conscious effort to to get someone else to follow a train of thought to reach a conclusion) need to pick their venue. A web-forum--especially THIS web-forum--is not well-designed to 'teach' but works pretty well in helping people learn. It's WAY too much to ask readers to jump off one train of thought and invest the effort to board and ride another one. It's especially so when the 'teacher' hasn't done, or is (for whatever reason) unable to do, quite what Ray has.
1. Taught 'us' who are already 'here'.
2. Answered thousands of questions about his train of thought.
Do we really want dozens of trains of thought answering 1000's of questions on the forum? God help us. It's confusing enough as it is, at times. :D
I reckon if anybody wants to risk the scriptural warnings concerning 'teachers', they need to risk finding a suitable place to take them. The rules don't say 'stop teaching', just 'take it elsewhere'.
I hope nobody takes this as swinging the hammer too hard.
Gina:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 02, 2012, 12:12:44 AM ---I hope nobody takes this as swinging the hammer too hard.
--- End quote ---
Just wanted to say you're fine by me. I'm grateful for all your gentle reminders. :)
the truth:
Dave, We will find out who the heros are when we get there.And it not up to you if... I...OR WHO..I..feel pity for ever!
Penn State had a hero TO DAVE!
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