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noeleena:
Hi,

Can we just say in many matters like this , just let the Boss sort it out .

Why take on whats not ours to meddle in. no matter what we may or not think about such matters its not our fight or war.

The battle is not for us to.... try.... & win. in so doing we will ....fail......

...noeleena...

Shawn Fainn:
Listen to Kat's advice. Let the Lord's spirit guide you through your conscience. Personally, when Chick-fil-a was first attacked by the liberal/secular media, i spoke out in their defense. Now that many have come to their defense i no longer feel led to do so. Nor do i feel led to boycott any particular business. I may feel led to do/say something in the future, but it all depends on what God wills. It's when you start making it your own battle (to sate your own anger, for example) when it becomes wrong to continue to get involved in. We are ambassadors for Christ, so we stand for the truth. We may not be perfect, but remember the Lord knows our heart and our intentions.

Extol:
Excellent words, Gina. It would be a pretty hopeless exercise to try and have nothing to do with anyone who believes/thinks/acts differently. We would have to be completely isolated, living alone and living off the land. Who among us is ready to do that? And as you point out, would it even make any difference?

I'm sure that among the bands I listen to, the sports teams I follow, the stores where I shop, the oil companies from whom I buy gas, etc., there are many who are pro-homosexuality, pro-abortion, adulterers, cheaters, murderers...I actually don't like cars--I went several years without one and I liked walking and taking trains and other "healthier" forms of transportation. But right now I live in the country and I must drive to a job so I can support my wife--which is a good thing to do. If I tried to be spiritual and avoided buying from the oil companies, then I wouldn't be supporting my family--and we know what Paul said about that. To me, boycotting things to try and be more spiritual is getting tangled up in the letter of the law, while forgetting the spirit.

Here's the passage that Gina posted (1 Cor. 5:9-13), from the MESSAGE:

I wrote you in my earlier letter that you shouldn't make yourselves at home among the sexually promiscuous. I didn't mean that you should have nothing at all to do with outsiders of that sort. Or with crooks, whether blue or white-collar. Or with spiritual phonies, for that matter. You'd have to leave the world entirely to do that! But I am saying that you shouldn't act as if everything is just fine when a friend who claims to be a Christian is promiscuous or crooked, is flip with God or rude to friends, gets drunk or becomes greedy and predatory. You can't just go along with this, treating it as acceptable behavior. I'm not responsible for what the outsiders do, but don't we have some responsibility for those within our community of believers? God decides on the outsiders, but we need to decide when our brothers and sisters are out of line and, if necessary, clean house.

octoberose:
I think you all make some thoughtful points.
 Regarding Ray's take on being an ambassador, the only thing about that I never have fully grasped is that an ambassador doesn't pay taxes to the country he is sent to and we pay them in abundance. We're also not immune from the consequences of breaking the law. (Though I don't know what the 'rights' of an ambassador were in the first century).
 I guess the thing is that no matter what we do we act in faith, and we never deny Christ. I suppose I'm wrestling with how to claim Christ in this world, be in the world and not OF it.

ez2u:
this is really a sane post  so refreshing  maybe Extol you could get a hybrid sometime.  i know they are costly  John once again you nail it!  love you few but good words

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