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are there any discussions on why the "fall"was allowed
Ian 155:
Members,
Was the allowed and successful temptation of Adam and Eve in the Garden a stereotype of what we go thru every day - the more we succumb to deceit the more pain the more harder this life is [thorns and thistles]- that is until we are perfected
ian
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: Ian 155 on August 01, 2012, 09:56:07 AM ---Members,
Was the allowed and successful temptation of Adam and Eve in the Garden a stereotype of what we go thru every day - the more we succumb to deceit the more pain the more harder this life is [thorns and thistles]- that is until we are perfected
ian
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I don't know if I fully understand your question.
All mankind has sinned because God created us to automatically sin. He made us the way we are. There is a 100% success rate in humanity sinning. God always has His way. That is why there is not even one righteous human (except Jesus).
The only way that we ever do a good thing is when the Spirit of God gives us the will and the action to do a good thing.
Both Good and Evil come from God. We are His workmanship. As Jeremiah and Paul noted, we are clay being formed in the Hands of the Potter.
gmik:
i thought the fall was planned all along and not just allowed...
i also think we can use all scripture to help us in our everyday life so i guess it can be used as sterotype for our sins and lessons....
Ian 155:
thanks ,
I'm taking notes - God Is admonishing the then woman [not yet named], what is this you have done? is God kinda surprised as well ?
Gen 3:9 But the LORD God called to the man and said to him, "Where are you?" 1 question
Gen 3:11 He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat? 2 questions,God knew the answers to ,
Gen 3:13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." 4th question
My Question again, Is This a stereo type of our daily lives as we know them - explaining away our daily falling in an attitude of repentance - Man was created in Gods image, you say we were created to sin ... I was hoping there were past/any, discussions on the subject - why this Fall was allowed/planned
Ian
longhorn:
This e-mail to Ray may help answer some of your questions. http://bible-truths.com/email2.htm#why
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