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Introducing myself
« on: August 10, 2012, 10:03:03 PM »


            Hi, my name is Virginia and I want to properly introduce myself to you all. I am sorry I haven't did it sooner, but I just seen my messages and read them. Thank you all for the imput on the things Charles and I can do to improve our overall health and thank you again for your prayers.
          Well I live in North Carolina. Been here all my life, grow up in the traditional churches, then I met my husband 17 years ago and he introduced me to the Sabbath and I was really into all of that till one day something didn't seem right about it either so I began to read the Bible for myself and begging God not to let me be deceived like Eve was decieved, because women should not learn on their own. Well I dug in there and boy did God start teaching me. It scared me to death since I had to confront Charles on what i was learning. Needless to say he wasn't going to have any of it, so I stopped talking to him about it. Wellll I don't talk to him about it all the time anymore. I'm sitting at my computer one night and the thought came into my head about the lake of fire. I never thought about what the lake of fire was because I thought I knew.     
Anyway I typed in what is the lake of fire and as they say the rest is history. I believed and accepted what God has shown Mr. Smith in his lake of fire series. I am amazed and thrilled to learn all that God has allowed me to know. I can't get enough.
I want more and more. I read something about whales and Ray was going to tell us about them I don't know if he has a paper on it or not, but I would love to know what he knows on it. That's how I got here. Glad to have you all as my sisters and brothers. Blessing and peace to all. Virginia.


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Re: Introducing myself
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2012, 10:19:37 PM »

Hi Virginia,

I'm glad you have joined us  :)
Yes we are so blessed to have our eyes opened to these truths. I hope you will enjoy the fellowship that we have here, it is so nice to have a place to meet together with like minded people. Here are links to the different boards that you may want to check out the different stuff we have here.

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Re: Introducing myself
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2012, 07:21:43 AM »

Hey Virginia,

Welcome to the forum.



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Re: Introducing myself
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2012, 12:38:06 PM »

Good morning Virginia,

Great to have you with us on the forum and learning what God has to offer his chosen people.
As it happens I/we have a daughter Karen who turned 50 this year.
I'm from Plymouth, Indiana and used to observe the seventh day sabbath as your husband does.
I know from discussing it with my Doris, how difficult it can be for a wife to debate a husband who has his mind made up. We are all quite stubborn and it is really hard to admit we were mistaken in our previous beliefs especially because all our friends will laugh at us or say "I told you so".

I am truly proud of you for being so patient and for trusting in God's will being done in this personal situation. I attended church on Saturday for 30 years until God finally opened up my thick head, so it may be a little while in your situation. Meanwhile just do your best to be a caring and loving wife and God will give you peace in your relationship.

Please feel free to share your concerns or ask questions on any topic you wish. I am not too smart, but I have time to think and study about an issue and it would be my great pleasure to help in any way I can.

Your friend, Indianabob  :)


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Re: Introducing myself
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2012, 01:37:10 PM »

welcome to the family forum Virginia in North Carolina ;)


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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2012, 03:10:19 PM »

Welcome and may God bless you as he has me here!


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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2012, 11:23:50 AM »

Welcome Virginia,

I read something about whales and Ray was going to tell us about them I don't know if he has a paper on it or not, but I would love to know what he knows on it.,8385.msg76394.html#msg76394

While we are at it, where do the dinosaurs fit into the Bible?  Alright there is one place that I think that they fit. 

It’s interesting that there are only three things that God said He “created.” 
1)  The heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1). 
2)  He created man and woman (Gen. 1:27). 
3)  And He created the great tanniyn (Gen. 1:21).  That’s what the Bible translates whales.  A lot of newer translations like Concordant, have it “great monsters.”

Gen 1:21 And creating is the Elohim great monsters… (CLV)
Gen 1:21 And God created the great sea-monsters… (Rotherham)
Gen 1:21  So God created the great sea monsters… (NRS)
Gen 1:21  And God prepareth the great monsters… (YLT)

They look like monsters don’t they. 

In Strong’s the Hebrew tanniyn and tanniym - a marine or land monster, that is, sea serpent or jackal: - dragon, sea-monster, serpent, whale.

But they do have it down as a serpent in Strong’s.  In Exodus 7:9 we read of a serpent, but it is the word tanniyn.  In Exodus 7:15 it plainly tells us that this tanniyn was Strong’s no. 5175 which is nachash, which is a snake.  So we know that the tanniyn were in the snake family or the snake family was in the tanniyn family or that a snake can also be called a tanniyn, which is a reptile. 

Gen 1:21  And God created great whales (tanniyn)…

Can you see why He would use the word “great“?  The only place in the Genesis creation where He used the word great, one time only, “the great tanniyn.”

At our little chat last night (in hotel lobby), I was saying how I was laying in bed one night and I got to thinking about this… I think about this stuff all day long too.  But I’m laying there thinking about how God says He told the first people that He made there in verse 28, “and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth” (Gen 1:28).

I said wait a minute, what is this in here, because back in Genesis it said, “And God said—Let the waters swarm with an abundance of living soul, and, birds, shall fly over the earth…” (Gen 1:20)

So He made the fowl of the air and the fish in the sea and on the next day before He made the first humans…  I’m not sure that was Adam and Eve, because Adam comes along in chapter 2.  But God said in verse 25, “And God made the wild-beast of the land after its kind, and the tame-beast after its kind, and every creeping thing of the ground, after its kind.”

So we have the fish of the sea, the birds of the air and the creeping things and cattle on the earth, right.  Then He said after He made the humans verse 28 “and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the bird of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth on the land.” 

Why didn’t he have dominion over the great tanniyn?  This is the thing that He calls great of all the animals, the birds or the fishes.  The one thing that He calls great is the great tanniyn.  So why didn’t He said have dominion over the great tanniyn?  Because they had been dead for 65 million years, that‘s why.  There were no great tanniyn, when the humans were made, that’s why they didn’t have dominion over them or they would have had dominion over them along with the fish and the birds and everything else.  You see the fish and the birds and everything, they survived down to the creation of the humanity.  The great tanniyn were no longer there, that’s why they could not have dominion over them. 

One other point regarding this is these dinosaurs lived by the millions and millions and millions on the face of this earth.  Millions of these dinosaurs lived.  If you go to these fraudulent creation museums they will have you think that there was children playing with dinosaurs or riding on their backs or whatever.  Yet they know that there are no dinosaurs anymore.  How do they account for that?  ‘Well they were all killed in the flood, that’s why there are no dinosaurs today, they were killed in the flood.’  Excuse me do you see a problem with that?  They say, ‘Of course that’s why we don’t have them God wiped them out in the flood.’  What is the problem there? 

[Noah couldn’t get them on the ark]  Well even if he could, there is still a problem with that.  [Well we don’t have them now, where did they go?]  Right.  So they have no answer for that.  Dinosaurs died out, probably from the Chicxulub impact crater that caused a nuclear winter and they all died, except small mammals and things that could crawl in holes and some how survive a year or two. 

So they said, ‘Oh we have the perfect answer for that. They were killed in Noah’s flood.’  Excuse me, what was the purpose of the ark?  To preserve the animals.  Those double talking lying frauds, all of them.  How can you take them on the ark to preserve them and have the flood kill them all?  You can’t have it both ways.  If they were taken on the ark to be preserved, then they would have lived after the flood and been preserved.  They would have had to live at least the first couple of thousand of years or so.  But we don’t have one example of a human being with a dinosaur. 

So any way they slice it, they fail.  If they died in the flood, then God didn’t do what He said the purpose of the ark was, to have a male and female of every animal to preserve it.  That is a major point actually.

[Why did the Lord make them?]  Well I don’t know.  I’ll tell you something else I don’t know why did He take so long to do this?  I have some ideas, but I’m not going to put those out until I have a couple more years to meditate on it.

Romans 7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.


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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2012, 01:53:23 PM »

This is a good find, Brad!
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