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Big Fat Fiasco - Fat is good
Dave in Tenn:
I have limited interest in all this. As I've said, I eat what is put in front of me and have very little choice in the matter. But what disturbs me is the allegations in that article impuning the intent of the medical profession. They may be right, they may be wrong, they may be part right or wrong, and they may be disagreeing with each other, but when someone says they WANT us to be sick or call them "despicable people", he loses all credibility to me.
Should I throw out the baby with the bathwater? Maybe not, but I'm going to anyway.
bob:
For those interested, excerpt from the book "Wheat Belly"
“Give us this day our daily bread.” It’s in the Bible. In Deuteronomy, Moses describes the Promised Land as “a land of wheat and barley and vineyards.” Bread is central to religious ritual. Jews celebrate Passover with unleavened matzo to commemorate the flight of the Israelites from Egypt. Christians consume wafers representing the body of Christ. Muslims regard unleavened naan as sacred, insisting it be stored upright and never thrown away in public. In the Bible, bread is a metaphor for bountiful harvest, a time of plenty, freedom from starvation, even salvation. The notion that a foodstuff so fundamental, so deeply ingrained in the human experience, can be bad for us is, well, unsettling and counter to long-held cultural views of wheat and bread. But today’s bread bears little resemblance to the loaves that emerged from our forebears’ ovens. Just as a modern Napa Cabernet Sauvignon is a far cry from the crude ferment of fourth-century BC Georgian winemakers who buried wine urns in underground mounds, so has wheat changed. Bread and other foods made of wheat have sustained humans for centuries, but the wheat of our ancestors is not the same as modern commercial wheat that reaches your breakfast, lunch, and dinner table. From the original strains of wild grass harvested by early humans, wheat has exploded to more than 25,000 varieties, virtually all of them the result of human intervention. During the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, as in many preceding centuries, wheat changed little. The Pillsbury’s Best XXXX flour my grandmother used to make her famous sour cream muffins in 1940 was little different from the flour of her great-grandmother sixty years earlier or, for that matter, from that of a relative two centuries before that. Grinding of wheat had become more mechanized in the twentieth century, yielding finer flour on a larger scale, but the basic composition of the flour remained much the same. That all ended in the latter part of the twentieth century, when an upheaval in hybridization methods transformed this grain. What now passes for wheat has changed, not through the forces of drought or disease or a Darwinian scramble for survival, but through human intervention. As a result, wheat has undergone a more drastic transformation than Joan Rivers, stretched, sewed, cut, and stitched back together to yield something entirely unique, nearly unrecognizable when compared to the original and yet still called by the same name: wheat. Modern commercial wheat production has been intent on delivering features such as increased yield, decreased production costs, and large-scale production of a consistent commodity. All the while, virtually no questions have been asked about whether these features are compatible with human health. I submit that, somewhere along the way during wheat’s history, perhaps five thousand years ago but more likely fifty years ago, wheat changed. The result: A loaf of bread, biscuit, or pancake of today is different than its counterpart of a thousand years ago, different even from what our grandmothers made.
They might look the same, even taste much the same, but there are biochemical differences. Small changes in wheat protein structure can spell the difference between a devastating immune response to wheat protein versus no immune response at all.
Davis MD, William (2011-08-30). Wheat Belly: Lose the Wheat, Lose the Weight, Rodale. Kindle Edition.
levycarneiro:
--- Quote from: bob on September 21, 2012, 07:18:12 AM --- For those interested, excerpt from the book "Wheat Belly"
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Very revealing, I was looking for this exact information since a few days ago when questioning "Was Jesus times' bread better than ours now?". Thanks for the info Bob.
levycarneiro:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 21, 2012, 02:17:41 PM ---Hmmm...
Let's think this out. Wheat is different today from a thousand years ago?
Who has wheat from a thousand years ago?
What is the name of the scientist that tested this "thousand year old wheat" from modern wheat?
What is the name and date of the scientific journal where this "scientist" published the results of his testing?
What is the name and date of the scientific journal where a 2nd scientist duplicated the results of the 1st scientist's test?
If scientific proof does not exist of the difference between 1,000 year old wheat and modern wheat, then what is the proof of this supposed fact?
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I'd love to find this info too.
So far all I know is that not eating wheat/bread improved my health big time.
Patric:
Recently I found info that bread and sugar as well as all grains are bad for your teeth and bones......this sadden me cuz not only have I finally found a bread that contains no high fructose corn syrup or enriched or altered chemicals LOL .....it also tastes very good ha ha ha ha ......my concern over taste is of course health.....Sourdough bread which is fermented is supposed to be acceptable if you are eating bread at all....since the grains lose their destructive properties when in the body if fermented......I do know that Vitamins A E D and K are good for the bones and teeth....so dairy products if from grass fed cows and not grain fed are consumed....anybody remember that yummy caster oil? LOL well fermented caster oil with high butter oil is supposed to be not only a cure all for many ailments but able to remineralize the teeth and bones.....and reverse cavities and prevent decay.....technology seems to push us more to taste and bad health and.....being health makes sense...but it does not make dollars! Doctors....Dentists and most health professionals want us on their drugs.....its a huge business and the schools that teach these 'pros' are funded by guess who? You got it....the drug companies write the books on what you treat illnesses and diseases with.....they want you in the system.......I even heard a Doctor say that the mammogram machine they push on women....gives cancer! No wonder they want you to get checked asap......who are we fooling.....our health is about dollars not common sense in this life.....at least to those making a buck or two......we are lied too....and deceived....and for as little as I put into my own health.....and Paul says physical training is of some value.....we have no confidence in the flesh....and our hope is not in this life or our mortal decaying bodies.....I do like feeling alive while I am here lol.....what I mean is not being racked with pain for no reason other then that we did not take care of the temple our Father has given us....lets not destroy it on purpose....when we are armed with knowledge brothers and sisters...
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