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Revilonivek:
I have a question that has been bothering me... If God wanted to forgive us, why can't he just forgive us just like that, like he asks us to forgive others. Why does he need to have his Son tortured and die in order to forgive us. It just doesn't make sense? i need your insight on this. Thanks so much.

Denise

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Revilonivek on August 21, 2012, 01:22:25 PM ---I have a question that has been bothering me... If God wanted to forgive us, why can't he just forgive us just like that, like he asks us to forgive others. Why does he need to have his Son tortured and die in order to forgive us. It just doesn't make sense? i need your insight on this. Thanks so much.

Denise

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Perhaps it wasn't just about forgiveness?

Perhaps it was about proving to a creation that could never understand Him, atleast not as they are now, that He loves them and relates to them?

If your dad always sent you gifts on your birthday, gave you money, but never actually spent time with you or did anything for you, you might start to doubt his love. But if your dad layed down his life for, died for you, to show you how much he really loves you, you could never go to him afterwards and say "You never really showed you cared you know?" "You gave me everything I wanted but that doesn't mean you loved me."

This way, no one can say to Him, You didn't really love us, you don't know what it's like to be us.

God bless,

Alex

GaryK:

“Why should submitting His Son to a brutal beating and crucifixion "please Him?"

“And this is how God knew that Christ's sacrifice would not be in vain.”

http://bible-truths.com/WhyGodLovesYou.htm

Denise,

The above two quotes are teasers for you.   I believe you’ll find your answer(s) in Ray’s paper.

gk

Joel:
We can rest assured that God has his reasons for doing what he does, and the outcome is always perfect.
Under the Old Covenant people were required to bring blood offerings for the remission of their sins.

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without the shedding of blood is no remission.
Under the New Covenant God required the bloody death of his Son Jesus Christ, and that was a one time requirement that God accepted once and for all for the forgiveness of our sins.
John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Joel

Revilonivek:
It doesn't make sense.. to be honest.

The same concept applies... for example.. if I sin against you, and you cannot forgive me unless your own biological son, The good one, kills (tortured/murdered)  himself to save me, the bad child and it is only then that you can forgive me. It's like you need someone of your own to die in order to forgive someone. To me.. that is messed up. Why need bloodshed in order to forgive? Why can't he just forgive?

I would understand if Jesus acted as mediator for God and Man. Being born as a human, show the way... grow old, and die. I would understand that.. but that God demands his son's sacrifice, blood, and so on to save us...using that blood as substitute.  It just doesn't make sense. It is like God demands blood for blood.  A bloodthirsty God requiring bloodshed/death to be able to forgive us? It just doesn't make sense.. Why can't he just forgive us, after sending a mediator, to show us the way. Why need bloodshed, death, and so on, in order to save us? That part doesn't make sense.

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