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Marky Mark:
Eugene,I would have to ask you who is your Faith and is this same Faith based on a belief in what your Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ teaches through His Word? Jesus Christ is your Faith if He is doing His works in you,He is that reward of that Faith in us, when He drags us, to His Faithful truths.

We have to remember that the way God uses words in the bible are not meant to be clear to those whom He is 'not' calling out of the world in this age. Your Faith and your belief is your Savior,and not the faith of your self.

Peace...Mark

Ian 155:
I think you have a point here Eugene,

If I give my child a gift , I was pleased to give my child something as a gift it therefore belongs to the child, same applies to salvation,revelation,wisdom all part of the kingdom which God is pleased to give us or I speak as a fool This is however is not from you but from God

newgene87:

--- Quote from: Marky Mark on August 30, 2012, 08:52:18 AM ---Eugene,I would have to ask you who is your Faith and is this same Faith based on a belief in what your Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ teaches through His Word? Jesus Christ is your Faith if He is doing His works in you,He is that reward of that Faith in us, when He drags us, to His Faithful truths.

We have to remember that the way God uses words in the bible are not meant to be clear to those whom He is 'not' calling out of the world in this age. Your Faith and your belief is your Savior,and not the faith of your self.

Peace...Mark

--- End quote ---

Great response Mark. Can you help me connect this with those verses I presented? Seems this response goes off a little. I mean, I will agree and confess that my Faith (or belief) IS Jesus As my Lord and my God. I am aware of his hand on my entire life from depression, sadness, confusion, when I denied him, to happiness, joy leading to now - I'm aware of his working leading me to the Faith I have now. The "fire" of those tribulations produced all the good qualities in me now, and yes I acknowledge that Fire was, still is, and will always Be GOD. But to the verses in these texts - how does it connect? I'm trying to be solid on this understanding so I can be able to speak the truth of it to someone else. But great response.

newgene87:

--- Quote from: Ian 155 on August 30, 2012, 09:28:46 AM ---I think you have a point here Eugene,

If I give my child a gift , I was pleased to give my child something as a gift it therefore belongs to the child, same applies to salvation,revelation,wisdom all part of the kingdom which God is pleased to give us or I speak as a fool This is however is not from you but from God

--- End quote ---

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh and that light flashes on. GOT IT. Like Gina pointed out from 1 Corithians - EVERYTHING we have we received from God and since Faith IS A GIFT from God - its ours. So there's no room for boasting like its OURS AND OF US. Thank you Ian 155. That helped a lot.

Eugene

Dave in Tenn:
Heb 11:1 Now faith is an assumption of what is being expected, a conviction concerning matters which are not being observed.

If you can 'insert' that most scriptural of definitions you'll be ok.

Study and meditate on Hebrews 11.  (And concerning that chapter, I'm at a loss to see why some think of it as 'bad news', but that's for another discussion, maybe).

It was Ray who said it is God's faith.  It's ours when He gives it to us.  I was just too lazy/busy to search for the quote.   :)

Even the Lord Jesus lived by faith, and died in faith...the assumption of His expected resurrection, a conviction concerning His death and resurrection that were not being 'observed' during the time he 'faithed/believed' and prophecied it.

It's HIS faith that the whole world will be saved, expressed in His word and in His coming.  Now it's ours.

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