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G. Driggs:
Just reread that paper today and it struck a different cord with me this time. Lately I've been pretty down about the current condition of the world and especially of my own sinful condition. Then after reading the whole article carefully I came across this quote from Ray.


--- Quote from: L. Ray Smith ---
Make no mistake about it: There will be hell to pay in the years ahead. Our sins have reached to high heaven, and our leaders fiddle while our great spiritual leaders "speak unto us SMOOTH things and prophesy DECEIT" in our darkest hours and in our greatest need to repent and turn to God. I don’t apologize for how that sounds to many of you, but not to all, I hope.

Have you ever wanted to just take charge of some evil, some oppression, some inequality, some rotten situation in our nation, but just lacked the opportunity and power to do anything about it? Well God is offering some the grand and glorious opportunity to reign and serve with HIM in HIS glory, wisdom, and power.

    "And he that overcomes, and keeps my works unto the end, TO HIM WILL I GIVE POWER OVER THE NATIONS… To him that overcomes will I grant TO SIT WITH ME IN MY THRONE, even as I also overcame and am set down with My Father in His throne" (Rev. 2:26 & 3:21).

As we have seen in Jeremiah, God will punish ALL NATIONS, but the Christian Nations will be the first to fall.  First God punishes His people, and then He punishes those He used as a club in His hand to punish His people. Few will take this warning seriously—what about YOU?  http://bible-truths.com/towers.htm
--- End quote ---
 

I don't every remember seeing those verses from Revelation defined that way. And what I got out of it is instead of being so down about it all I should have hope for something to look forward to. Some great day God willing we will have power of the nations to influence them for good, to change what is wrong with the world. I mean how awesome is that?

I dunno, what do you all think? Just wanted to share a little revelation from the book of Revelation as taught by Jesus through Ray, something I had never seen before. Just gives me hope and a bit of strength to try a little harder to change myself (through grace) so someday maybe I can be a part of changing the world. Kinda like that saying that goes, "if your not part of the solution then your part of the problem". Of course it seems I needed to be part of the problem before Jesus can make me part of the solution. 

It's just been a little tough lately. Its so easy to get down about the world and ourselves. Hopefully this is just the refocus I need at this time, and maybe give hope to someone else? Thanks for listening.

Peace

Gina:
Of course.  I was reading that today as well:

    "And he that overcomes, and keeps my works unto the end, TO HIM WILL I GIVE POWER OVER THE NATIONS… To him that overcomes will I grant TO SIT WITH ME IN MY THRONE, even as I also overcame and am set down with My Father in His throne" (Rev. 2:26 & 3:21).

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.  (Rom 8:30)

John 17

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 

Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords, but He taught us to never "lord" it over anyone. 

Overcomers don't feel the need, desire, or compulsion to lord it over anyone.  But they do feel the need to heal and set things right that God may be glorified (who is just and good and gentle and merciful and gracious and a BIG gift giver, , in addition to all His other characteristics)

God humbles those who exalt themselves, but He exalts ["lifts high"] those who humble themselves so that God may be All in All.

This couldn't have been a more timely post.  Thanks to the Most High God.

Dave in Tenn:
Rom 8:18  I am of the opinion that there is no comparison between the pain of this present time and the glory which we will see in the future.
Rom 8:19  For the strong desire of every living thing is waiting for the revelation of the sons of God.
Rom 8:20  For every living thing was put under the power of change, not by its desire, but by him who made it so, in hope
Rom 8:21  That all living things will be made free from the power of death and will have a part with the free children of God in glory.
Rom 8:22  For we are conscious that all living things are weeping and sorrowing in pain together till now.
Rom 8:23  And not only so, but we who have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we have sorrow in our minds, waiting for the time when we will take our place as sons, that is, the salvation of our bodies.

Kinda makes you pity the world to believe that.  Kinda makes you not prone to blame the world.  Kinda makes you want to to minister freedom and hope to the world, even if the world turns on you.  They aren't "strongly desiring" the appearance of religious folks bringing bondage and fear.  They are weeping and sorrowing in pain in no small part BECAUSE of all that.  I hope we're concious, and that we believe all living things will have a part with the free children of God in glory.   
 

onelovedread:
Guys, seems to me to be a crap shoot:

From The Myth of Free-Will Exposed
http://bible-truths.com/lake15-B.html


Ray teaches:

"....The subject is can a man make a choice to obey God with his natural mind?

And time and again I have shown you that God says in His Word that the natural, unaided mind of man cannot "will" and choose to do good.

The Scriptures have already concluded that man’s will is not free to do that which it cannot do. Yet should God intervene and cause this same person to repent and turn to God in obedience, how can this same person take credit for repenting and turning to God, seeing that it was ALL OF GOD? Yes, the human mind and will can will and can choose to obey God, but only when God causes it to do so."

Gina:
Hey John -- What do you mean by a crap shoot?

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