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First resurrection?
ertsky:
--- Quote ---Therefore, there is no unrighteousness of which they need to be purged. To say that those who are justified by faith still have unrighteousness which must be destroyed is to depricate the sacrifice of Christ.
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woah! Brandon no it isn't
we want to magnify Christ and depricate the man of sin
but we cannot magnify Christ by denying His word
Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
if faith alone were the doctrine of Christ why would we need to be scourged ?
Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
to say if we simply believe it is all that is required makes James statement very relevant
Jam 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jam 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
--- Quote ---Therefore, there is no unrighteousness of which they need to be purged.
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sorry Brandon but that is just plain WRONG!
Jam 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jo 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
well how about it? how many christians walk even as He walked
how many christians commit all sorts of sins
oh but they are righteous by faith someone will say
Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
1Th 5:24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
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ertsky:
Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
holiness by faith sure
but not theoretical holiness by faith
REAL holiness by faith
or shall we continue in sin that faith may abound??
GOD FORBID!!
holiness that is Christ in us
not the theoretical christ
THE REAL CHRIST!!
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
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davey C.:
welll brandon wouldn't you know,I have a hard time making sense as I have so little time.Yes Christ paid in full for all flesh and sin,but that is not the baptismn that He baptises everyone with,he baptises with fire and that my dear friend purifies the sinner,and brings about good fruit.Not making an oath and loving your enemies doing good to those who persecute you,basicly overcoming the lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life.We don't have one virtue without Christ burning out the bad,hence baptismn with fire.And noone can come to the Father but through His Son Yashua.Living in the old covenant is actually filthy rags(unrighteousness)For the scripture saith our righteousness is like a dirty menstral cloth,of NO value,used up and useless.This is the contract that old testament set apart ones lived in.I don't know if time has anything to do with making sense by the way.Those who are with Christ in that blessed and holy ressurection are called chosen and FAITHFUL.But there is only one name given by which men are being saved by.And did you read what david had to say to solomon on his death bed.its 1 kings 2 And I did see that abraham had concubines.Eye for an eye was the rule back then and the new is not in accord with that .love and peace.davey c
roperfam:
--- Quote from: ertsky ---Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
holiness by faith sure
but not theoretical holiness by faith
REAL holiness by faith
or shall we continue in sin that faith may abound??
GOD FORBID!!
holiness that is Christ in us
not the theoretical christ
THE REAL CHRIST!!
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
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Hey ertsky, thanks for your two posts, just what I needed to read this morning.
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