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Patric:

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--- Quote from: Patric on November 01, 2012, 10:41:33 AM ---He Knows the Bengals will never win a super bowl!!

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I disagree.  If god puts enough money on the Bengals, you bet they'll be winning the thing.  Even without Ocho Cinco.

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U mean because Ocho Stinko is gone! the team has a curse upon them from old law......they must suffer and suffer.....and their lake of fire punishment is long suffering and no sell outs....no playoff wins.....(I was at the last playoff game they won btw 41-7 in 1990 over the Houston Oilers LOL Boomer Esiason beat Warren Moon....) okay I am dating myself but that tells you how long the curse has been going on ......it got so bad I stopped rooting for them.....lost emotion.....and a waste of time....like Satan repenting? LOL

Joel:
Does God know everything?

1st John 3:20
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Joel

octoberose:
Hi Ian,
 I for one am happy that you posted. We don't learn if we don't ask our questions and take a chance on revealing our thoughts.
 The quote you used is from a school of belief that is called Open Theism. They just can't wrap their minds around God watching while humans suffer and not intervening. So, the answer for these people is that God is thwarted by Satan and his minions, and that gets God off the hook for all the evil in the world. Among many things that is wrong with this school of thinking, they really think God is just impotent. It sounds something like this, " Poor God, we're just out of control and out of His hands and He'd like to do something about us but He is stopped from the Free Will that He gave us."  What a bunch of baloney.  :-\
 If you stick around here for awhile and read Ray's writings, you may come to see that God truly will work all things out to His good pleasure. Our hardships and the wickedness in the world will be redeemed in His good time and for our good. God gave us something much better than Free Will. He will give us the knowledge of Good and Evil because we have walked the walk of Evil and we will be more than happy to give that up and walk in His ways on the Day when all are redeemed to Him.

patmokgoko:
I agree that God knows everything,but will I be right to say that if God knows that I will tell lies next week then He will cause me to tell that lie so that He Himself does not become a liar.That is my understanding of Numbers 23:19.I agree that even before I came here on earth my life was complete in His mind, so He will cause me to do things exactly the way He wrote them.He wrote the play, I am just an actor or performer, He causes me,He directs my steps, He guides me.

Dave in Tenn:
A verse quoted from his contention that angels keep God informed about 'free moral agents' decisions.

Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits commissioned for service because of those who are about to be enjoying the allotment of salvation?

Heb 1:14  Are they not all helping spirits, who are sent out as servants to those whose heritage will be salvation?

"Shall be", "About to be", "Will be".  Every usage of the word μέλλω mellō I found through the KJV concordance had the strength of 'prophecy', something that would happen.

There is no escaping salvation for those/them.  Though we have to believe the rest of scripture to understand that God's work includes all His creation, each in his own turn.

Now, are those/them to recieve the heritage/allotment/be heirs of salvation by their own "free will"?  What does scripture say?  Over and over, it says He is the One doing the choosing, determining, 'gracing', working, etc.  Even our faith/expectation is given to us because it is His faith/expectation in the first place.  He gets everything He wants, and He wants all of humanity to be sons and daughters.  He is the Potter, we are the clay.  The clay may not understand the Potter, but it has no choice but to trust Him.

"Where is "free will" or "free moral agency" in that prophecy of Heb. 1:14?  Whatever these 'ministering spirits' do, they are doing it to/for those pre-destined/prophecied/willed/about to be the heirs of Salvation.  If He has said it, it is as good as done.  NO wiggle room. 

As Ray said many times, God is not running 'damage control' from Heaven.  It is HE who is working IN US both to will and to do His good pleasure.  His will be done.

   

 

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