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All is out of God
darren:
I recall Ray asking the question: Where did or how did God know evil?? Before there was anything before there was any creation of anykind How did God know evil? When there was just God and nothing else How did HE know evil? Ray said WE know God is love many scriptures back this up. God is good We know this from scriptures. Where, how and why would God create evil? WE know God is not evil. I dont think Ray ever spoke on this any further. Here is my question. We know from scripture that God created Good and evil. WE also know from scripture that ALL IS OUT of God. All means All. This is gona sound bad,, here goes: Love goodness mercy and justice and evil came out of God. Still The question remaineds. Rays said you cant have light without dark, up without down, sweet without sour. Good without evil. God is alpha n omage, no ending no beginning. Has evil been a part of God since the beginning? Just as Love and goodness Im sure I will be tared and feather for this. Just looking for ansewers.
Darren
Darren
lilitalienboi16:
Darren,
God created evil, creates evil; remember?
God possess the KNOWLEDGE of evil and therefor can CREATE it. God himself is not evil, nor is there evil in his being. Knowing evil and being evil are two different things.
Before God created the world, He dealt with some form of evil that was without Him which produced this knowledge of evil that He now posseses.
Remember: evil itself is not sin. God uses evil for good ends and even uses the experience of it to humble us. I believe it is the story of joseph where we read; "You meant it unto evil but God meant it unto good to save many."
So has evil been apart of God since the beginning? Well, only in knowledge and wisdom but not in the sense that He Himself is evil. He just knew about it from the begiinning because He too, experienced it.
Hope this helps, if not, feel free to clarify :)
Ricky:
Someone said evil came out of God but created itself somewhere down the road.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Ricky on November 01, 2012, 10:21:54 PM ---Someone said evil came out of God but created itself somewhere down the road.
--- End quote ---
Well that's definitely a new one for me Ricky! Can't say I've heard it before. How strange.
Kat:
There is so many unknowns here... But I want to think it's possible that God is leading us to a degree of understanding about who the Father is... I mean wasn't there a time when there was only this Being? Before He created all the heavenly host and the physical beings and even His Son, what other being was there? So didn't this 'Being' (if that is really what you can call something like He is) have to come to a knowledge of things by creating the circumstances that gave Him the experience of all the different things He needed to know about? Where else would any of the experiences He had have come from, if He did not create them for Himself?
I want to think that there had to be so sort of process where He came to a knowledge/understanding of good and evil by He Himself creating different experiences for Himself to learn from. We don't know, nor could we probably even comprehend what all this process involved. But at some point He must have made a differentiation between what He considered good and of a beneficial nature and what is evil and a harmful nature. And this final process of learning to separate between the 2 could be the process that He went through with extremely difficult to realize and the process is reflected in the difficulty in the birthing process we experience. So He gained the wisdom of what He needed to apply for all the laws (natural and spiritual) to functions so things would operate in order and consistency for this creation to be as He desired.
Well I have a hard time expressing myself in this way, but I tend to try to look at things in a simplistic way and that's where my thoughts have lead me on this.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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