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Sorin:
Thank you Jayle. It's much appreciated.

God bless,
Sorin

ned:

--- Quote from: gmik on July 31, 2006, 09:04:14 PM ---Marie, I wanted toprint JJ's words and I got 20 pages of the whole thread. Do you know something I don't know" ???

I don't mind having the entire thread on paper as it is such a good one, but it is my old printer spitting out 20 pages and ink and all. Oh well.

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Hi Gena,
I just copied and pasted JJ's type into a word document, only 2 pages.
 ;)
Marie

ned:
Your welcome Bobby!
I'll counteract and throw that praise up to God> He gave me everything I've got!  ;)


PRAISE GOD!
FOR ALL THE GOOD THINGS YOU GIVE US, LORD, WE THANK YOU AND ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR EVER-PRESENCE!

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: zander on July 26, 2006, 10:25:53 AM ---Hi folks

I felt i should let you know, in case anyone was wondering (yeah gosh i think i must be v.popular  ;D ), that i am merely an observer on this site from time to time now and dont come here as often or place as much input.  I am having some trouble at the moment regarding relationship with God etc.  I understand it all, but feel very let down by him.

Well i wish you all welll

Z

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I thought this e-mail to Ray & his response would be appropriate in this thread;



    Bi-Polar
« on: Today at 06:51:09 AM »     

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         So..now what?

        I have bipolar disorder.  I am destroying my marriage with rage.  My husband
        smokes more pot than you can even imagine and we are both “saved” and go to
        “church” – imagine that.

        Ray, I grew up in WWCG.  I am more than clear on those doctrinal errors.  So, for about
        20 years, I decided that I really couldn’t care less about what happens to this body
        after I die.   I can’t see that far.

        I just want this pain to stop.  I don’t know how to make my life work.  I don’t know how.

        I don’t know how to control this beast within before I lose my marriage.

        Oh yeah, its hard for me to really call out to God because when I get sick, “he” talks
        to me.  And we know that God doesn’t talk to people like that.  Besides, even if he did
        everything that is said contradicts itself.  In 1997, when I first got sick, before I was
        hospitalized, I was horrified because the 2 weeks of voices made it seem like Satan and God
        were the same person.  It is kinda like what you say about god creating evil, but far more
        frightening.

        And when I increase my time in bible study, or meditating or even praying too much, I start
        to hear the noise in my head again.

        Bipolar is well handled with medication, but I have so many issues from growing up in a cult,
        and the dysfunctional family that brought me there – I look like I have it all together.  The
        doctors call me “high functioning”  When all I want to do is just die.

        I can’t live with this shame.  I feel like such a failure.

        So the beast is within, it’s confirmed.  Now what do I do?  How do I make it through
        this life on the way to the next one?  How do I stop being sick?  How do I stop hurting
        people with my own pain?  And how do I stop the tears?

        I can’t see anything.


        Dear Janice:

        I get lots of emails like yours (or at least similar). I can't save you, Janice. Only God can save you. God brought you to my site for a reason. Have you read everything?

        When one is in your condition, they are perfect candidates for salvation.  There is no use in saving those who have nothing they need saving from, right?  That's why Jesus said He came to save sinners, not the righteous (as thought there are any righteous, but there are those who think that they are righteous).

        You need to cry out to God, Janice. There is no easy fix. There is no easy formula.  There are no magic words.  Salvation is between you and God.  I can encourage you and teach you, but right now you need Jesus, not me. You need to repent of everything that is destroying your life. This will require the Spirit of God.  You can only get the Spirit of God from God, not from me. I tell people to PRAY AND OBEY unto God reveals Himself to you. God does not want to frustrate you, but He wants you to come to Him in complete surrender and humility, and judging from your condition, that should not be to very hard. We will be praying for you.

        God be with you,

        Ray 
 
 

gmik:
Joe- Wow! It hurts to hear about so many hurting people. We need to pray for Janice. Hopefully she will follow Rays suggestions and find our forum.

Marie-Thanks for the tip. I will try that next time!

Jayle-Thank you for the kind words(pm). I am so glad God led you to us.

To all-  I don't say it enough, but I can't wait to get on the forum each day to fellowship with all of you.  You are so precious to me.  You don't know how you have helped me in my walk, given me things to laugh about, pray about, think about. Thanks and God Bless All of You!

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