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As It Was In the Days of Noah - Luke 17:26
cjwood:
last night i spent several hours rereading the Scriptures pertaining to noah and lot. i believe that in luke 17:27-28 "they" is speaking specifically about the peoples of the areas where noah and lot resided. when i followed the reference Scriptures given in the margins of my study bibles, it becomes apparent that the peoples were exceedingly wicked (sexual sin with others of the same gender, fornication everywhere including with animals, etc, etc.), and it is "they" whom Jesus was referring to. when you read in detail and study where it leads in the Scriptures, the statements by Jesus become pretty matter of fact. people in the generation when the Son of God is revealed to the whole world, will be going along business as usual, including marrying and being given in marriage.
i believe we might be trying to focus in on the "they were given in marriage" more than the actual situation Christ Jesus was describing. i.e. it is really more simple than we are trying to make it out to be.
yes, the men in sodom wanted to "know" (have sex) with the 2 angels that lot had taken in for the night, and i am sure that wickedness was a stinch to God's nostrils. but i don't believe that was what Jesus was referring to when He said "they" were given in marriage.
this topic had been on my mind since gina started the thread.
claudia
Ian 155:
yep Claudia, you're right, this does deviate slightly from Gina's initial point [which btw im still not getting, Gina always speaks above my particular fireplace] saying that,the easy to read version states,folks are marrying and giving their children to be married.
Could it be that simple ?
Revilonivek:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on December 03, 2012, 11:59:30 AM ---
--- Quote --- they married, they were given in marriage
--- End quote ---
Should have added it was both these sentences that made Ray suspect something. The first sentence should be enough to make a simple point.
--- End quote ---
Maybe Scripture meant to say- males married, females were given in marriage? I think If they wanted to say homosexuals were marrying, they would have made it clear like they did many times in scriptures when talking about homosexuals? I don't think they were talking abt homosexuals specifically. We know when a marriage occurs, a female must be given away to be married to a male. You don't say, male are given in marriage but you say Mr. Smith married Ms Kathy Spelling of atlantis. another example, Ms.Kathy Spelling, from Halewind, London, were given in marriage to mr. Kenneth Smith on March 23, 2016. You get the idea?
Dennis Vogel:
We really can't say any of this for certain unless we know what that figure of speech meant 2000 years ago.
cjwood:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on December 06, 2012, 05:31:42 PM ---
We really can't say any of this for certain unless we know what that figure of speech meant 2000 years ago.
--- End quote ---
after reading dennis' post above, i decided to go to the Scriptures to see if the phrase "they were given in marriage" had appeared before. the word marriage in luke 17:27 is "gamisko" in the greek. it means to espouse a daughter to a husband. that same word is used in mark 12:25 where Jesus was answering the sadducees as to what happens upon resurrection for a woman who marries her deceased husband's brothers, and whose wife she would then be. Jesus' reply in verse 25 of mark 12 was, "for when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven."
in matthew 22:30 and 24:38, and 1 cor. 7:38 the word marriage is "ekgamizo" which means to marry off a daughter/to give in marriage/of giving a daughter in marriage and is in the family of "gamisko" the word for marriage in luke 17:27.
matt. 22:30 is the same story being portrayed as in mark 12:25 regarding marriage upon resurrection. matt. 24:38 is where Jesus is answering the disciples upon the mount of olives, when they asked Him to tell them what shall be the sign of His coming again.
matt. 24:38 - "for as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that noah entered into the ark."
1 cor. 7:38 - "so then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better."
i know i could be wrong on this matter, but it appears after further study of the Scriptures, that the phrase "they were given in marriage" in luke 17:27 is a phrase that was well known and used 2000 years ago, and it was referring to a woman being given in marriage to a man.
claudia
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