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Did God forsake His Son in His last moments?
newgene87:
I was having a really good conversation with a friend of mine and she asked a interesting question which i'm wondering too.
"When Jesus was hanging out on the cross and Jesus shouted out. My God My God why hast thou forsaken me? Did God forsake his son in his last moments?"
Good question for me as well. I know that text is from Matthew 27:46 and a quote from Psalm 22. Why did Jesus say those words at that moment? why is that "text" so unique in that it's written that he said it in it's original language? (as if His other words were "spoken" in ENGLISH ;D teehee). With my Observation - Jesus would be saying this IMPLYING that "God DID forsake Him" ....or why say it??? :o. Just a general question. I couldn't find Ray's insight on this verse, i'm definitely seeking his insight and any others. Thanks
Eugene
Rhys 🕊:
From Ray’s emails:
I do not believe that God "turned His back on His only Son."
There are those who teach it, however. Jesus quoted the first few words found
is Psalm 22 which goes on to describe just Who the Messiah was to be and the
purpose for Him being crucified.
Jesus was telling them who the Messiah was. Hey chaps this is your Messiah you just knocked up on this piece of wood.
Lord not my will but Thy will be done.
The perfect sinless sacrifice for the world. How could you beat this sort of love.
Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
I think God must love us or something to do this. How much does He love us? Perhaps more than what we presently know. Jesus already knew the answer to His own question.
Never forsaken in any moment. All God's will.
I ask myself the same thing sometimes and I know I'm not forsaken by God. If I know that I'm pretty sure Jesus did as well.
Rhys
Ian 155:
This seems like he was forsaken but the next verse tells us he bowed his head [humbled himself in the circumstance] and gave up his spirit 'Into Your hands I commit my spirit" did not hold onto/focus on the trauma taking place,
This is to happen with all we go thru or places he God takes us to, Humble yourself,hand it over to whom it belongs and rest [breath your last] Take up your cross Daily ....
good news is that we are then risen out of that situation in due time
don't we also scream when things are not working out according to our spec - you dont love me ,you have let me down etc
my 2 cents
Ian
1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that YOU SHOULD FOLLOW HIS STEPS.
bob:
I was taught that as in the account of him taking the scroll of the prophet Isaiah 53 and after reading it in the synagogue, proclaimed this day is this scripture fulfilled, so also he spoke those words so as to fulfill the prophesy in psalm 22. So that all prophesy would be fulfilled. Bob
Kat:
Hi Eugene,
Think of the situation, Jesus who was a human as any of us are, in that He felt all the pain of what He was going through. He was being crucified, He was in excruciating pain, He was struggling for every breath He took. So what does this perfect man do in His distress and suffering? He cries out to the only being that can help Him...
Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"
He was not saying forsaken as He thought His Father had left Him. He knew the Father would have never turned His back on "His beloved Son," not for a second. This was His death and He knew it very well, and He wanted it to be over... of course He wanted this part to be done, finished. That is what His plea to His Father was about and His Father's answer to this came very quickly thereafter.
Mat 27:50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
p.s. as Bob said He did fulfill that prophesy as well, so He spent His last moment taking care of the business He was sent to do.
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