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Did God forsake His Son in His last moments?
Gina:
Exactly. Why say it if it weren't true?
Isaiah 54:8 In a surge of anger I hid my face from you for a little while. But with everlasting love I will have compassion on you," says the LORD, your Redeemer.
It was only for a little while. I don't know if this verse is any help, but if God the Father was angry, He wasn't angry with Jesus because Jesus didn't do anything deserving of God's wrath. But I imagine if it is true, God was angered by what He had to witness was happening to His Son. I don't think He wanted to forsake Him but He had to in order for death to come. But it was only for a little while. And of course, we all know that He redeemed Jesus from the grave.
My 2 cents.
newgene87:
--- Quote from: " Shorty " on February 23, 2013, 11:00:45 AM ---Exactly. Why say it if it weren't true?
Isaiah 54:8 In a surge of anger I hid my face from you for a little while. But with everlasting love I will have compassion on you," says the LORD, your Redeemer.
It was only for a little while. I don't know if this verse is any help, but if God the Father was angry, He wasn't angry with Jesus because Jesus didn't do anything deserving of God's wrath. But I imagine if it is true, God was angered by what He had to witness was happening to His Son. I don't think He wanted to forsake Him but He had to in order for death to come. But it was only for a little while. And of course, we all know that He redeemed Jesus from the grave.
My 2 cents.
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wowww what a verse. even the verse before speaks to me, "For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee" .....thank you " Shorty". I will pray on that. Scripture was fulfilled :D
indianabob:
Hi folks,
Thanks for the helpful words,
I think it also speaks to the idea that Lord Jesus had to REALLY die!
True it is about the undeserved pain and suffering, but it is also about the FAITH of Jesus.
Not to seem to go to sleep or pretend death in unconsciousness, because he was actually god and could not die, but to really put his trust in the Father, ALL THE WAY!
That of course is the example we are to follow. To put ALL our trust in the hope/fact that we shall be resurrected to LIFE once again, no matter our carnal, human doubts and fears.
Mark 9:23-25
Truly we are most blessed among all people.
Indiana Bob
Kat:
Here's an email where Ray made a comment on this statement from Jesus on the cross.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=2775.0 -------
No, David, neither do I believe that God "turned HIs back on His only Son."
There are those who teach it, however. Jesus quoted the first few words found
is Psalm 22 which goes on to describe just Who the Messiah was to be and the
purpose for Him being crucified.
God be with you,
Ray
Gina:
Rhys,
It appears you misquoted Ray:
--- Quote from: Rhys on February 23, 2013, 01:22:07 AM ---From Ray’s emails:
I do believe that God "turned His back on His only Son."
There are those who teach it, however. Jesus quoted the first few words found
is Psalm 22 which goes on to describe just Who the Messiah was to be and the
purpose for Him being crucified.
Jesus was telling them who the Messiah was. Hey chaps this is your Messiah you just knocked up on this piece of wood.
Lord not my will but Thy will be done.
The perfect sinless sacrifice for the world. How could you beat this sort of love.
Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
I think God must love us or something to do this. How much does He love us? Perhaps more than what we presently know. Jesus already knew the answer to His own question.
Never forsaken in any moment. All God's will.
I ask myself the same thing sometimes and I know I'm not forsaken by God. If I know that I'm pretty sure Jesus did as well.
Rhys
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