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Did God forsake His Son in His last moments?
Gina:
Well, gee, I just don't know what to think now. I mean, if Jesus and the Father are One, and every thought Jesus had and every word he said came from the Father, why did He say that?
Maybe that's another one of those spurious passages. I don't really give a care at this point if all it's going to do is tear us down the middle.
I'm out. :)
Rhys 🕊:
I took out the guy's name and forgot to put not in, my mistake, have changed now, sorry
I had - I do believe that God "turned His back on His only Son." before adding the word "not"
I'm so sorry I made a mistake in the original post as was tired at that time. I mean no disrespect to shorty so I am truly sorry for making you look bad, it was never my intent to do so.
I am also so sorry that I misquoted what Ray said, making it sound like he said something else.
I never saw my mistake before you mentioned it. Sorry and sorry again.
Rhys
thewatchman:
This is all interesting, but in light of Ray's "Enigma of God", how does Jesus forsake himself, except to allow himself to physically die, otherwise the life within him, his spirit could not allow himself to to die.
Gina:
Watchman,
The way you phrased what you said makes it look as if Jesus was praying to Himself, ,,,why have You forsaken Me?". Jesus wasn't praying to Himself, He was praying the words the Father God caused Him to pray to the Father. Jesus is not His own Father. Yes, the Father and the Son are one, but think of it like an Orchestra -- there's one company of musicians made up of many members.
(Did you love that Enigma paper? I did.)
Gina
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: " Shorty " on February 23, 2013, 11:00:45 AM ---Exactly. Why say it if it weren't true?
Isaiah 54:8 In a surge of anger I hid my face from you for a little while. But with everlasting love I will have compassion on you," says the LORD, your Redeemer.
It was only for a little while. I don't know if this verse is any help, but if God the Father was angry, He wasn't angry with Jesus because Jesus didn't do anything deserving of God's wrath. But I imagine if it is true, God was angered by what He had to witness was happening to His Son. I don't think He wanted to forsake Him but He had to in order for death to come. But it was only for a little while. And of course, we all know that He redeemed Jesus from the grave.
My 2 cents.
--- End quote ---
That verse is referencing Israel, not Christ. Jesus was never forsaken.
John 8:29 The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him
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