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Free Will
MG:
--- Quote ---God commands men to do the impossible. This too is a necessary precursor for man's learning. We must be humbled in our utter inability to do God's perfect will, before we will ever repent of our weakness and wickedness.
--- End quote ---
Amen!
John9362:
I enjoyed your "ramble" tb ..........Thanks
John
chumkin:
hey bobby,
i agree, we puny humans living in real time in the here and now think we have free will.
when i realized the truth of how big God is and that he holds all thngs together, ie, unseen particals.
the vastness of god is uncomprehendable.
one thing for sure, knowing this has made it easeir to understand his will and to obey him.
ill paste this again as a reminder:
We may regard the present state of the universe as the effect of its past and the cause of its future. An intellect which at any given moment knew all of the forces that animate nature and the mutual positions of the beings that compose it, if this intellect were vast enough to submit the data to analysis, could condense into a single formula the movement of the greatest bodies of the universe and that of the lightest atom; for such an intellect nothing could be uncertain and the future just like the past would be present before its eyes." – Marquis Pierre Simon de Laplace
God bless
chuckt
Karen:
II PETER 2:4 FOR IF GOD DID NOT SPARE THE ANGELS WHO SINNED, BUT CAST THEM INTO HELL AND DELIVERED THEM INTO CHAINS OF DARKNESS, TO BE RESERVED FOR JUDGEMENT. ABOUT THIS FREE WILL QUESTION. IF GOD DID NOT SPARE HIS ANGELS. THIS ANGELS MUCH HAVE BEEN CREATED WITH THERE OWN FREE WILL TO CHOOSE TO SIN . WHY WOULD A ANGEL SIN THAT IS SPIRIT? I DIDNT THINK ANGELS WHERE CREATED TO THINK . JUST AS SATAN WAS A SPIRIT. TO ME IT SOUNDED LIGHT ANGELS WAS ABLE TO MAKE THERE OWN CHOICES APART FROM GOD. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS SCRIPTURE? ~KAREN~
JJ:
TB, that was a very thoughtful ramble! Thanks for taking the time.
Love hearing others express these raw truths--things that christianity
can't sell. The truth of these things would be quite unappealing
to the majority-- the churches wouldn't be so full.
I'll enjoy re-reading this thread to fill in for the conversation that
I can't find with any of my local friends. Even when it hurts, doesn't
the Truth just thrill your soul? Has to be God's work in us, huh?-- cuz
we would not on our own turn TO Him and see these things.
Good thread ya all!
Jayle
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