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I think I have lost my faith in God
GaryK:
--- Quote from: space.ace.jase on March 30, 2013, 05:10:23 AM ---
I think I have lost my faith in God
I don't know what to think anymore, about God, about the bible - about why I am even alive. I feel like the waves of life keep crashing on me and eroding away my beliefs.
I just don't know anymore...
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If you're worried about it you probably haven't.
It's not up to you anyway.
If you lose it, you lose it. If you don't, you don't.
You're just having a bad day.
This too shall pass.
And you'll be fine.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on March 31, 2013, 10:16:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rex8 on March 31, 2013, 12:56:09 AM ---You probably aren't going to like this response .Gods purpose is to ween you off the scriptures and religion.Paul clearly states the scriptures are a schoolmaster .and yes ...I understand the irony of that statement yet that is how God does things.
EVERYTHING is the infinite process of growth...salvation..deliverance.The letter kills ..the spirit is life.Yahshua told the pharisees "you search the scripture thinking that in them you have life yet you fail to come to me whom they are written".
They sought God in all the wrong ways.. in books of what is written...yet it is through the books(knowledge) that we meet God...but not know God.It is no coincidence that the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil was the catalyst of separation.
God cast the whole world into Babylon..the confusion of language ... and has not unconfused it yet.The written word is half of the two edged sword ...the half that kills..the spirit is life.The spirit life is not alive until the letter crucifies you and you are crucified to it.
Yahshua never admonished the disciple to study the scriptures.He did not go off by himself to study the scriptures so he could hear the Fathers will.Everything Yahshua did he "heard" from the Father.When Peter made the proclamation you are The Christ the Son of God and Yahshua told him flesh and blood (written or spoken words) have not revealed that to you but my Father...THAT is the keys to the kingdom..revelation from the Father..THAT is communion..being in the TRUE Holy of Holies ...not the one with the ark of the covenant ... a box ... God is showing he can't be contained in that box.God is not the Ten commandments....God is not the manna they ate in the wilderness ..the anointing is not in Aarons rod...It is GOD...living in YOU.In your midst.The Kingdom of God comes WITHOUT observation.
Are the scriptures sin..God forbid! they serve a purpose... The scriptures are a schoolmaster that lead us to the anointing (christ) when we have grown to be a man we no longer do things as a child...we become sons and heirs.
One of the first steps is being weened off of teachers.Paul and Apollos experienced the fallout from teacher worshipers.Their disciples begin to worship them as Yahshua.Thinking THEY had the words of life.He clearly told them they didn't save them they were messengers at best.Paul was extremely flawed.He was the chiefest of sinners YET he had a religious pedigree that he rattled off as a Pharisee born of the tribe of Benjamin circumcised on the 8th day BLAMELESS in the law(highly studied)..and yet then proclaimed he counted it ALL DUNG in comparison to his communion with Yahshua in the anointing.
We ALL must shed our baby skin to grow up.We will cling to our parents until we die to them in immaturity to be reborn as mature and independent.Contrary to popular religious belief salvation is infinite.We are ALWAYS growing an always will.That is part of the immaturity to think that once we have been "given"(and most assuredly it is given") a few basic doctrines like the myth of hell,salvation for all,etc etc....we have matured....that is a sign of immaturity... adolescent thinking they have grown enough and are now men.
We will ALL be made naked and stripped of our fig leaf from the tree of knowledge of good and evil until we are clothed with maturity by the tree of Life (the spirit)but the process STILL continues on toward the fullness in the anointing (christ).It is all the process of salvation.EVERYTHING is the salvation of God (Yahshua) and always WILL be.
Losing your faith in a God that doesn't exist is part of the process.A few "believed"(and the many still do) in the God "of love" who was going to torture the majority of humanity in eternal hell but ALL will know that is a false God.That is an "obvious" truth... a shallow truth of the deep things of God.Until someone gets past the basics.. they can't get the DEEP .All false doctrines of God must die until all that is left is God and only God.
The beauty is GOD is doing it all...and every new revelation from the Father is bigger than the previous but not always obvious.It is not a leap of faith it is GIANT STEPS...so yes losing "your " faith is a good thing.We are "being" saved by grace THROUGH faith NOT of our own ....it is GODS faith.
God uses the most unorthodox methods man wouldn't use to shake up our false world of religion.Babylon is not so easily escaped...especially when someone thinks that are not in it anymore.The good thing is you are aware something is happening.The opposite is worse...best of luck in the recovery....
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Rex8,
You are a liar and false teacher. Be warned because you are leading the unlearned and unstable astray.
You lie when you state God's purpose is to wean us off Scripture. You lie when you state the Scriptures are a schoolmaster.
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster... Gal 3:24 The law is our schoolmaster, not the Scriptures.
Jesus said, ...the Scripture cannot be broken. John 10:35
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 Tim 3:16
The Scriptures are God's Word. Thy Word is truth. John 17:17
You need to take care or you will come under God's direct judgment. It was false religious teachers that drew Jesus' greatest condemnation because they led people astray from God's truths and taught lies.
John
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Very much in agreement with John on this way. Anyone who says that we are to be weaned off the sciptures is a false teacher.
Luke 4:4 "And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God."
Psalm 119:160 "The sum of Thy word [is] truth, And to the age [is] every judgment of Thy righteousness![/color]"
Rito1980:
Amen Rex8 :)
1 Corinthians 13
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: space.ace.jase on March 30, 2013, 05:10:23 AM ---I don't know what to think anymore, about God, about the bible - about why I am even alive. I feel like the waves of life keep crashing on me and eroding away my beliefs. What if the bible was just written by a bunch of fiction writers and that there is no God. What if all this is wrong, I mean their is no proof of God right? What makes the bible right and other writings (the Quran, etc) wrong. Each person in every religion is SURE that what they believe is the 100% truth and that everyone else is wrong.
I just don't know anymore...
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I can totally relate to how your feeling. I get this way once in a while when things aren't going my way, or when i just wanna give up on trying to do the right thing.
Found this quote from Ray which I hope will encourage you.
http://bible-truths.com/lake13.html
THERE IS HOPE FOR THE BUILDERS ON SAND
Yes, there is HOPE for all those who build their house upon the sand? But there is hope only according to God’s choosing. Remember, "many are called, but FEW ARE CHOSEN."
Every one who is chosen out from the called, will have first built their spiritual house upon the sand, and it will FALL! Every one who is of the chosen FEW will leave his "First Love" (Rev. 2:4). There is a time when all of the chosen will "look back," and see a time when they were not, "…FIT for the Kingdom of God" (Luke 9:62). It happened to Peter, it happened to the other eleven apostles, it happened to Paul, it happened to Paul’s followers, it happened to the entire early church, it will happen to US!
THE HOUSE UPON THE ROCK
"Therefore whosoever hears these sayings of mine, and does them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon THE rock; And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and it fell NOT; for it was founded [foundationed] upon THE ROCK" (Matt. 7:24-25).
Oh yes, the rains and floods and winds of trials and persecution will surely come, but we have this absolute assurance of God:
"Now unto Him that is able to KEEP YOU FROM FALLING, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour through Jesus Christ our Lord, be GLORY and MAJESTY, DOMINION and POWER, both now and ever. Amen" (Jude 24).
I love this verse. Read it over a half dozen times. It is sheer spiritual poetry! This is one of those absolutely POWER-PACKED Scriptures that should make our hair stand up! It is in verses like this that the King James Version really shines.
Kat:
Hi space.ace.jase,
God is the foundation of all truth, seek His help first and foremost. Get your mind firmly fixed on the truth that God is sovereign, then you will not be so tossed about with all the confusion that men has dreamed up.
James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
v. 6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
It takes faith to believe in God and where do we get that?
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Pray often and petitioner God, ask Him to open your eyes to the truth, the ONE TRUTH.
The Scripture is invaluable in our pursuit of the truth, it is the living Word of God given to men He has specially prepared to write it and preserve it. And God can and does use the Scripture to teach and inspire all His people.
1Th 2:13 For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe.
Ask so that you might receive... pray that God will open your eyes and search the Scripture, the Truth is there. I have total faith that the Scriptures are God's revelation to man, there are too many righteous men and women in it give testimony of it's truth, not to believe it. Also most importantly God's Spirit bears witness to us it is truth.
Eph 6:13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
v. 14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
v. 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
v. 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
v. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
v. 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints--
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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