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Unequally yolked
DaleRay:
Hi everyone!
Sorry I haven't posted in a while. Lots of turmoil in the house seein's how I am starting to get all this and my wife, a devout believer in Jesus Christ, thinks I've gone off the deep end ...again. Anyway, I think at this point I would have a lot more peace if I were married to an athiest...but that's not why I'm writing tonight.
I just wanted to say that I get all goose bumpy so many times when I'm reading people's posts and Michele's (right on Michele) is a perfect example. I start going "yes, yes, YES!!!" deep inside...it's kinda groovy...hehe
I just realized I sound like a hippie even though I never was... :D
the Lord bless you all!
Dale Ray
snorky:
Amen, Dale Ray!
I hear you, Michele. It might be a cliche but some of my best friends are non-believers, and, somewhat like Christ perferring to hang out with prostitutes and tax collectors than the pious churchgoing types, I believe perhaps that NOT being brought up with all the nonsense Christendom teaches those now unbelievers might in some ways be better off. But these unbelievers are startignt to come around to letting Christ redeem them precisely because my husband and I love them and they know it.
Speaking of my husband, I don't think it takes being married to an unbeliever to feel unequally yoked. Though my husband got (God willed) me over the church system many years ago, that doesn't mean he doesn't try to throw some heresy at me from time to time. Only through God's will will his heart be lightened so that when I prove to him using Scripture the rapture won't happen he will actually take me seriously. We argue about this all the time! Drives me nuts he can't see it when he can see so many other truths in the Bible. He doesn't believe one has to go to church, but on the other hand he watches Hagee and Osteen. Ugh!
We are here for you, Michele--snorky (Deb)
chuckusa:
Hi all,
One of the many blessings that God has bestowed upon me in my life is a wife who follows my lead in spiritual matters. She doesn't do it blindly, or always in synchronization with my progression, but she always follows where I lead. God gave her the will to trust me in these matters, and I am so thankful for that. It's not that we don't have disagreements, but they are minor, and she always sees the big picture once I explain it to her. It helps keep me on my toes because I feel that God put me in this position, and I try very hard never to forget the magnitude of this awesome responsibility.
My daughter is starting to do the same thing and when I see it, I usually break down...such is the power of this blessing.
BUT....my wife and I argue about everything else...so nothin is perfect... :)
God bless,
Chuck
Nancy:
Hi there everyone,
I am new here. It seems like a good forum to belong to and my eye was caught on this particular subject, as it is particularly close to my heart.
I have a problem with what St. Paul calls being unequally yoked with unbelievers.
Well the first one is 'what is a believer'? Is it those who believe that 90% of history's inhabitants of this world and in the present time, will be separated from God for eternity?
Is it those who go to church? Is it those who are spiritual but do not conform to any religion? I am coming to believe that a believer is a person who accepts the 'true' gospel that says that God will be All in all.
But if that is the case, and there aren't that many of us around, how does one avoid marrying a non-believer? I mean, do we ask a person of the opposite sex whether they believe that God will be All in all, and then fall in love with them or what?
I married a Jew 13 years ago, when i was in the hell-fire camp (to be honest i didn't know what to believe, i was very impressionable). I literally went through hell, thinking that i had to give up my then boyfriend, who i loved very much. Now i am glad that we got married (we have had our difficult passages but then who doesn't?) Of course i would love my husband to believe what i believe but that is down to God.
I suppose that the ideal would be to only mix with believers but i don't see how we can in this day and age. I don't know in what context St. Paul was speaking in but the only way i can think is that when St. Paul was preaching and forming ecclesia, believers all believed in the sufficency of Christ's death, that He died for All mankind, except for one or two heretics.
But today, there are so many heresies and most have fallen from the faith that how is it possible to only mix with believers?
I don't have all the answers but maybe one of you could tell me if i am way out in what i have just said.
God bless
Nancy
Michele:
I really appreciate everyones answers, I have only found comfort here so far and I hope I continue to learn God's Truth.
I have a lot of rants I hope you can help me with...years of anxiety, frustration, and fear to put in it's proper place.
I need help still though. My husband is completely into Carl Sagan and his Cosmos series, Ayn Rand and some guy named Gould who basically says that Jesus was maybe delusional in thinking that he was the son of God and how all of his prophesies didn't come true...... Each and everyone of these authors stands by the concept of "You are Your own and owe noone anything, you happened by chance/evolution, you are your own God) , whatever...and no need for any "Creator"...and people that believe in "God" are those who have no ability to direct their own lives and can't cope with the thought of not having an afterlife and on and on and on.....Is anyone here familiar
OH I am SO CONFUSED!
. When my husband who also loves my daughter very much sits down to share carl sagans "Cosmos" series with her.....and how we all popped up out of a quagmire of chemicals, just add water, no God needed, what am I to do? I feel sick to my stomach and flushed like I"m going to die on the spot because I have nothing that I can say to refute that... except when I told my daughter later that I had no problem with those dvds because I don't know how God created everything and I have no problem really with evolution or not evolution as long as God is given the credit for it all..except God was apparently Not involved in any way and I DO have a big problem with that. ANd I asked my husband (and it took all my courage to do so) I asked him if sagan was an atheist and he replied "Oh yes" in a definate positive as if anything otherwise was unspeakably ridiculous....and I said "I think he's a very smart, nice man and I won't hold his being an athiest against him if he won't hold me Not being an athiest against me". Feels stupid now but it's like I have a terror of anyone thinking that I don't believe in God....and I don't know WHY exactly? Why do I care what Anyone thinks?
It's because I've been lectured/read somewhere in the Bible that it's MY JOB to tell others about God and to speak up when they say god doesn't exist?
I don't know my Bible you guys. Not because I don't want to but because it's always been like reading Greek, long lost ancient Greek at that. I didn't understand it anymore than you could pick up and read Japanese right now (if you're not japanese i mean).
Thus I am here searching for answers.
My husbands study is brimming with non-god books, scientific books...and I have no say in the matter. What am I supposed to say or do? I do not control him and he should not control me either. What about my daughter? She'll read these books someday. I have no choice over whether they represent the truth or not the truth to her. I nearly break out in a sweat when I"m in this room. If they are no threat to me or my beliefs then I shouldn't feel this way should I? I think i feel scared/angry around them because they represent the fact that my husband and I are going in complete opposite directions....yet I still love him and he says he loves me also.
No Wonder there are SO MANY Non Believers in this world! IF it's this confusing for those of us truly searching for God, think of all of those to whom he is non-existant because of the seeming contradictions in this world and in the Bible....etc....so many false teachings of men...on and on and on..........infinity
If any of you have any insights or comments for any of these things I've written or asked, I am truly grateful.
Afterthought: I wonder if I should......
I've also thought even if he doesn't ever believe any of it that he might like knowing that I no longer believe ( or am learning to believe) that he is no longer in danger of spending eternity in "Hell fire". Even if he thinks it's all nonsense, it'd have to be irritating to think that your wife believes that about you and can still go on worshipping this "God" of hers.....See what I mean? I have been asking God for the courage to just send him Ray's website link saying that if he's interested he can read up on what I now believe. Or maybe just make him a card telling him I love him and telling him I don't believe in "Hell" anymore....I dont know...something.
HERE"S WHAT I FOUND ON http://www.christiananswers.net/q-grace/hell.html ABOUT HELL..........................this is what every christian I've ever known believes.
RIGHT HERE -----> http://www.christiananswers.net/q-grace/hell-fire.html
THAT IS THE REASONS WHY I CAN'T JUST LIVE MY LIFE AND WORSHIP GOD AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT "SAVING" EVERYBODY I LOVE (which is ridiculous because I sincerely WANT God and I am riddled with fears and doubts still, let alone Atheists who know God not at all and not necessarily because they've Chosen to deny God!!!) Please HELP me get this straight once and for ALL.
As my sister would say about these Bible scripture interpretations "Why does God let people believe it if it isn't true".....and I say Why are there Catholics, Mormons, Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, and a zillion others..................
All Help and Sound Advice WELCOME..........
Michele
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