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Author Topic: Is man made out of the dust or clay?  (Read 4236 times)

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santgem

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Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« on: May 06, 2013, 06:54:31 AM »

Is man made out of the dust or clay? :)
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Deborah-Leigh

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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2013, 07:18:22 AM »



Man is made out of God ~ :)

Dust and clay is also made out of God ~ ;D
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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2013, 09:19:24 AM »

One definition of "dust" in scripture is finely ground clay, earth, mud.
See Gen 2:7

Mud is a good way to see ourselves. A form of material having no life of its own. An earthen vessel or container for something else. It is the use of the vessel that counts.  ::)

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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2013, 03:30:01 PM »

Is man made out of the dust or clay? :)

The Scriptures clearly state what we are before our change.  God Himself said, "...for dust you are, and unto dust shall you return." Gen 3:19
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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2013, 07:05:28 PM »

The Concordant uses the word soil.
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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2013, 08:02:09 PM »

The bible wasn't written in English, so here's the "Concordance" in case you don't have one (or e-sword).

H6083
עפר
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Total KJV Occurrences: 110
dust, 93
Gen_2:7, Gen_3:14, Gen_3:19 (2), Gen_13:16 (2), Gen_18:27, Gen_28:14, Exo_8:16-17 (3), Lev_14:41, Lev_17:13, Num_5:17, Num_23:10, Deu_9:21 (2), Deu_32:24 (2), Jos_7:6, 1Sa_2:8, 2Sa_16:13, 2Sa_22:43, 1Ki_16:2, 1Ki_18:38, 1Ki_20:10, 2Ki_13:7, 2Ki_23:12, 2Ch_1:9, Job_2:12, Job_4:19, Job_5:6, Job_7:5, Job_7:21, Job_10:9, Job_14:19, Job_17:15-16 (2), Job_20:11, Job_21:26, Job_22:24, Job_27:16, Job_28:6, Job_30:19, Job_34:15, Job_38:38, Job_39:14, Job_40:13, Job_42:6, Psa_7:5, Psa_18:42, Psa_22:15, Psa_22:29, Psa_30:9, Psa_44:25, Psa_72:9, Psa_78:27, Psa_103:14 (2), Psa_104:29, Psa_113:7, Pro_8:25-26 (2), Ecc_3:20 (2), Ecc_12:7, Isa_2:10, Isa_25:12, Isa_26:5, Isa_26:19, Isa_29:4 (2), Isa_34:7, Isa_34:9, Isa_40:12, Isa_41:2, Isa_47:1, Isa_49:23, Isa_52:2, Isa_65:25, Lam_2:10, Lam_3:29, Eze_24:7, Eze_26:4, Eze_26:12, Eze_27:30, Dan_12:2, Amo_2:7, Mic_1:10, Mic_7:17, Hab_1:10, Zep_1:17, Zec_9:3
earth, 7
Gen_26:15, Job_8:19, Job_19:25, Job_28:2, Job_30:6, Job_41:33, Isa_2:19
powder, 3
2Ki_23:6 (2), 2Ki_23:15
ashes, 2
Num_19:17, 2Ki_23:4
mortar, 2
Lev_14:42, Lev_14:45
rubbish, 2
Neh_4:2, Neh_4:10
ground, 1
Job_14:8

And the 'definition' from Strong's Dictionary:

H6083
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From H6080; dust (as powdered or gray); hence clay, earth, mud: - ashes, dust, earth, ground, morter, powder, rubbish.

Don't know if that's helpful, but it was easy.   ;D

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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2013, 09:44:22 PM »

just thought of an interesting fact about clay or mud when someone is using it as a medium for creating pottery or bricks.  since water usually is also used in mixing these mediums this causes the clay and mud to become unable to stay in place unless someone's hands are containing the clay or else a mud mixer is containing the mud.  left to their own device, clay and mud will ooze and move out in all directions.  kind of like us.

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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2013, 10:17:22 PM »

ain't that the truth.  Thankfully, we're not just clay, but clay in the Right Hands.
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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2013, 12:24:04 AM »

Yes,
Clay in the Right Hands, being slowly and carefully shaped, dried and strengthened by fiery trials to bring us into a vessel of great value for God's holy purpose.

1 Peter 4: 12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2013, 03:54:59 AM »

The bible wasn't written in English, so here's the "Concordance" in case you don't have one (or e-sword).

H6083
עפר
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Total KJV Occurrences: 110
dust, 93
Gen_2:7, Gen_3:14, Gen_3:19 (2), Gen_13:16 (2), Gen_18:27, Gen_28:14, Exo_8:16-17 (3), Lev_14:41, Lev_17:13, Num_5:17, Num_23:10, Deu_9:21 (2), Deu_32:24 (2), Jos_7:6, 1Sa_2:8, 2Sa_16:13, 2Sa_22:43, 1Ki_16:2, 1Ki_18:38, 1Ki_20:10, 2Ki_13:7, 2Ki_23:12, 2Ch_1:9, Job_2:12, Job_4:19, Job_5:6, Job_7:5, Job_7:21, Job_10:9, Job_14:19, Job_17:15-16 (2), Job_20:11, Job_21:26, Job_22:24, Job_27:16, Job_28:6, Job_30:19, Job_34:15, Job_38:38, Job_39:14, Job_40:13, Job_42:6, Psa_7:5, Psa_18:42, Psa_22:15, Psa_22:29, Psa_30:9, Psa_44:25, Psa_72:9, Psa_78:27, Psa_103:14 (2), Psa_104:29, Psa_113:7, Pro_8:25-26 (2), Ecc_3:20 (2), Ecc_12:7, Isa_2:10, Isa_25:12, Isa_26:5, Isa_26:19, Isa_29:4 (2), Isa_34:7, Isa_34:9, Isa_40:12, Isa_41:2, Isa_47:1, Isa_49:23, Isa_52:2, Isa_65:25, Lam_2:10, Lam_3:29, Eze_24:7, Eze_26:4, Eze_26:12, Eze_27:30, Dan_12:2, Amo_2:7, Mic_1:10, Mic_7:17, Hab_1:10, Zep_1:17, Zec_9:3
earth, 7
Gen_26:15, Job_8:19, Job_19:25, Job_28:2, Job_30:6, Job_41:33, Isa_2:19
powder, 3
2Ki_23:6 (2), 2Ki_23:15
ashes, 2
Num_19:17, 2Ki_23:4
mortar, 2
Lev_14:42, Lev_14:45
rubbish, 2
Neh_4:2, Neh_4:10
ground, 1
Job_14:8

And the 'definition' from Strong's Dictionary:

H6083
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From H6080; dust (as powdered or gray); hence clay, earth, mud: - ashes, dust, earth, ground, morter, powder, rubbish.

Don't know if that's helpful, but it was easy.   ;D


Behold, I [am] according to thy wish in God's stead: I also am formed out of the clay. Job 33:6
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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2013, 05:14:24 AM »





He spat on the ground and made CLAY with His saliva and he spread it on the man's eye's, like humanity burgeoning into 7 billion souls, all over the place, lol ~  :)

The Potters right, over the clay.  :)

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Re: Is man made out of the dust or clay?
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2013, 05:20:43 AM »

From dust we came and will return.

Job 10:8  Your hands fashioned and made me, and now you have destroyed me altogether.
Job 10:9  Remember that you have made me like clay; and will you return me to the dust?
Job 10:10  Did you not pour me out like milk and curdle me like cheese?
Job 10:11  You clothed me with skin and flesh, and knit me together with bones and sinews.
Job 10:12  You have granted me life and steadfast love, and your care has preserved my spirit.

God knows we are but dust but makes us into something beautiful, our flesh is dust but our Spirit so much more

Psa 103:13  As a father shows compassion to his children, so the LORD shows compassion to those who fear him.
Psa 103:14  For he knows our frame; he remembers that we are dust.
Psa 103:15  As for man, his days are like grass; he flourishes like a flower of the field;

I feel that God takes us as dust and adds the water of His Spirit and know we are clay. He shapes each of us to what is His will. When our time is up in the flesh He destroys the clay and to dust we return.

Ecc 12:7  and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

Now our Spirit returns to God, who we really are and what He made while we were in the flesh is now back in His hands until the time comes when He says awake.

Isa 26:19  Your dead shall live; their bodies shall rise. You who dwell in the dust, awake and sing for joy! For your dew is a dew of light, and the earth will give birth to the dead.

Maybe now we see what the Lord has done, though now it's hard to see. All this dirt tends to cloud one's sight, mud in the eye as it were.

1Co 13:12  For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

I guess I could of just said dust - clay - dust - something beyond comprehension

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