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Who is Cains father?

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loretta:
Tks ALL for sharing your personal insights and wisdom.  I can't honestly say that I understand everything, but I'm getting there.  On some matters, yeah, its ok to be ignorant. 


--- Quote ---The Author you refer to in his Part 1, 2 and 3 states and believes in Lucifer who rebelled against God and was changed to Satan, and that Spirit Beings like Angels and the Devil have sexual organs - when the Scriptures state that they do not.

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It was I who referenced this author, George.  Tks for clarifying - it settles the matter! :)

dave:

--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on June 27, 2013, 08:49:58 AM ---
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--- Quote ---I can't help but laugh at this. I also can't imagine where the idea came from.. but then again, this is christianity we are talking about.
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You mean to say that the activity in the Garden is literal?  I thought that John from Kentucky was suggesting otherwise.(?)  Am I missing something here?

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Hi Loretta,

I believe the creation stories are true and they contain great and profound spiritual truths.

I do not believe they are literal.

However, that is just my opinion.  I do not speak on behalf of the Forum or anyone else.

John

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:)

dave:

--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on June 27, 2013, 04:34:58 PM ---Alex,

You wrote, "but to say that these events were also not historical is either dishonest or ignorant."

Well, if my only two choices are being either dishonest or ignorant, I guess I'll settle for being ignorant.   ;D ;D ;D

John

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Amen! :)

indianabob:
Dear friend Loretta,
Please send me the link to the information you referenced with "look what I found" and that Moderator Craig erased from your message, I think??

I am interested in checking for myself. Thanks, Indiana Bob
bob.breyfogle@gmail.com



--- Quote from: loretta on June 25, 2013, 01:09:00 AM ---I never did doubt Cain's paternity or the literacy of the early Genesis stories.  Not till now, anyways. 
Well, ok, I guess the two trees in the garden, the serpent and the apple, all have spiritual implications, but surely the creation account is literal?

And talking about Cains' paternity, look what I found. "Links not allowed" (per rules "Links are not allowed if a site or article brings its own teaching or preaching." Hope you understand, you may pm if anyone is interested in the link~Craig)

I've only finished reading Part One, but I think the study deserves a read.  I also think that the author has the two witnesses to confirm his revelation (although I'm not qualified to decide so, just yet)  There is the expected confusion about hell/eternity which we will have to concede here and rewrite it as we know the truth.  I am trying to tie this revelation in with what Ray wrote about the two seeds. 

A note of caution though, this paper is not for the spiritually immature or victorian prude! :)  As a catholic teenager, I recall it being said that the activity in the garden related to sexual sin rather than simple disobedience.  However, it was soundly dismissed as it would result in sex, as God designed it being labelled as sinful.  Even this did not prepare me for what I would read in this paper!

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