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SPIRIT AS THE SPIRIT OF HOLINESS OF GOD HIMSELF
acomplishedartis:
When God first breathed the breath of life (spirit) on the human body, man became a ‘living soul’ (Gen.2:7). What this spirit did is to give life into the body and then produced soul. So there is a spirit within all humans that keeps them alive.
This spirit that gives life doesn’t have conscious on its own. When we die the spirit returns to God, the owner of it:
‘‘Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.’’ (Ec. 12:7)
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Since I find myself on the forum:
Every person (and animal) has a “spirit.” There is no life without spirit. At death OUR spirit return to our
God Who gave it to us. Spirit does not die. But, spirit has no consciousness of its own. It must be united
with a body. That is why there is coming a Resurrection of the DEAD. Adam’s body had the spirit of God
breathed into it and then Adam became a LIVING SOUL. God’s Holy Spirit is His Spirit of Holiness which
imparts spiritual knowledge and spiritual character to those who possess it. The wicked and unbelievers
have a spirit that keeps them alive, but they have no spiritual perception of spiritual truths because they
do not possess the Holy Spirit of God living in us through Jesus Christ our Lord. ETc. Sorry, but it would
take days to answer your question in detail.
Ray
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on August 06, 2013, 08:39:07 PM ---
Also, the entire bottom half of your post sounds like your philosophy. Do you have two scriptures in support of any of your statements contained therein?
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John. That something is someones philosophy; doesn't mean that it has to be automatically wrong. That there is not free-will is my philosophy of life and I am right on that one.
If you think I am wrong, I am open to be proven wrong. I wasn't trying to teach something new, and therefore I don't want to back up all the details of what I said in there. Actually I was just looking for one example to be able to understand the concept of 'holy spirit' better (that's all), and was only speaking my mind and I am glad I did since I got many good replys.
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: se7en on August 07, 2013, 10:13:31 AM ---Moises,
I know what your what your meaning. I've asked God this same type of question. We relate to each other via communication. And what is communication? We tell stories. We relate information to each other by speaking words or visually telling a story. Word's are very important. Words form ideas and doctrines, topple kingdoms and erect new ones.
God's Word is one big parable, one big story. I really like John's reply "As Paul told the Athenians on Mars' Hill, in God we live, move, and have our being." And exactly what you said Moises... "EVERYTHING is of God". Those were pagan Athenians that Paul was speaking to. We ALL live and move and breathe and have our being in Christ, everyone. But to have Christ inside us... that's different. I hope i'm communicating effectively here (telling a story)..... We all are in Christ, but to have Christ inside us, is to de-throne that son of perdition (the beast, me) and put Christ on the throne in the temple. This is all Christ's work of course! None of this is by our strength or any of our doing.
We live out the story through Word which is the Spirit, Jesus Christ, Truth. He is THE CHRIST, and we are His christ's. He is The Anointed and we are the anointed of The Anointed. We've been given the ears to hear and the eyes to see the Truth behind the physical shadow story.
John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent (and we know from study that the word 'eternal' is the word 'aion').
Stories are how we communicate! When we live and tell God's story, we are speaking Truth and know God. When we don't, we live the shadow of the Truth.
I know what you mean Moises G. I used to think for many years that God as a spirit being was some large old man in spirit that I couldn't see way out in space or something, but that's not the truth. His WORD is Spirit. not the physical ink on a piece of paper or the digital ones and zero's that form a word in a computer but the MEANING behind those words. The Spirit. The meaning behind the parable... The meaning behind the story. If God's Word remains in us, then we Know God and He sits in the temple on the throne and not the beast. We die daily, we are being destroyed so that Christ is preimmenent. The more we die to our story/our life, our way of thinking and the more we think like Christ, it's no longer we who live.... BUT CHRIST LIVES IN US!!! It's HIS story being lived out in us. I become a member of His body.
It is through the Word/Holy Spirit/Jesus Christ that we come to know Truth and relate Truth to other's by living the parable, the story, the Spirit. It's an attitude, a belief, a way of thinking, a way of living a way of moving. Without this story (Jesus Christ), no one would ever exist. The script is already written, we are now acting it out.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
I think your right Moises, this parable (story) we live out is the Spirit/Word of the Father and the Son in us... IF Christ is in us. Otherwise, we live the shadow of the story (because everyone lives and moves). Don't get me wrong, while still in this flesh, I'm walking through the shadow of the valley of death. But internally, inside, we are being graced and chastised into the kingdom. We are being taught to think like He does but the flesh is as good as dead.
Matt 13:34 All these things spoke Jesus unto the multitude in PARABLES; and without a parable spoke He not unto them.
Mark 4:34 But without a PARABLE spoke He not unto them…”
John 10:6 This PARABLE spoke Jesus unto them; but they understood not what things they were which He spoke unto them.
He spoke the Word/Spirit to them in parables (story form) so that those who are blind may see and those who see may be blind.
It's just how God does things to bring about the salvation of the whole world. It's AWESOME!!!
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Thanks for this.
A lot of this things where already on my mind.
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: Gerry from Toronto on August 07, 2013, 11:50:46 AM ---Hi Moises,
You posted good thoughts, and you are correct in your thought process.
I like this thought of yours:
--- Quote ---Other symptoms of having the influence of this spirit of truth in your mind and heart is gentleness, love, joy, peace, longsuffering, faithfulness, meekness, and self control.
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This is awesome, yes, this is a clear proof that you have the Spirit of God. Also in a sense, we become one with the Spirit of God and we began to understand the Father's heart and his emotions and his purpose to all around us, when we start to get Grace from God to have the fruits you mentioned. Only God can give that to us.
Be encouraged and continue sharing. Remember God only gives Grace to the humble and resist the proud. This is a divine principle and no one can stop you or hinder you to receive from God if you are humble, it will just receive Grace without even asking, as it says he gives Grace to the humble.
Pursue to receive Grace from God and for that only condition is to be humble.
Gerry
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Thanks Gerry
I am trying not be proud, sometimes it's just so hard.
God have mercy on me...
Dave in Tenn:
The statement "God has many spirits" is at best confusing, because it's not a Scriptural statement but an attempt at explaining something. I'll cut Moises some slack because English is not his first language, and I'll take him at his word that his post was not an attempt to introduce "new" teaching. The statement has been well replied to and addressed by others.
I'm inclined to leave the thread open for now, though it is straining hard at the rules of the forum.
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