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Dave in Tenn:
Just me talking...take it or leave it.  I wish more people would vote, not less.  But not me. 

I believe in the absolute sovereignty of God, but I don't 'feel' fatalistic.  If "good" happens, I am of course thankful, as it is easy to be.  If "bad" happens, then I look for the "good" in it.  Hard to find, sometimes, but it's always there.  If I'm led to pray, I pray...even though I know He has already determined the answer.  Why?  Well, it might just be possible that my "prayer" is part of His plan to do something.  And if it turns out otherwise?  Then I know that I learn something, and since I DO, then I know that is part of His purpose.  "NO" is a perfectly good answer, when you trust the One who makes these decisions.

I get up and go to work, because I know that if I don't I won't get paid.  I live in a universe that mostly makes sense.  Cause and Effect.  Though I do not always know the cause and I do not always see the effect.  And I often see an "effect" that was not expected--and sometimes it is "good" and sometimes "not so much".  My "free-will" has nothing to do with all this.  Indeed, my WILL has nothing to do with this.

Ray said that it is in obedience that we learn the deeper things of God.  "Bad stuff" happens to "good people" and "good stuff" happens to "bad people".  One day we will all be Job, and not one of his well-meaning, religiously-minded, but clueless and immature friends.     

 

Rhys 🕊:
There are many countries where you have to vote like my next door aussie neighbours, not much choice there unless you want to break the law

Rhys

Doug:
Thanks to everyone for your insights. Kat, you really helped with the scriptures. Over time I had gotten caught up in politics but for the first time in many years did not vote in the last election. The decision was based on following the lead of God's spirit. I am not good at understanding scripture like the folks at BT. When things are explained using God's word then it clicks.

I really appreciate this forum and everyone here more than words can express.

Doug

rumpelstiltskin:

--- Quote from: Rhys on December 20, 2013, 08:50:49 PM ---There are many countries where you have to vote like my next door aussie neighbours, not much choice there unless you want to break the law

Rhys

--- End quote ---

Hi rhys
what you say in your post is true, but that doesn't mean we all do. There's a large number of us that don't. Pierdut hit the mark on that one.  :)

indianabob:
Hi folks,
To me, decisions like this are a matter of attitude. If I vote I vote for the person who seems to listen and try to understand the job that they are asking for.

Another example: I reared four children and didn't believe in most inoculations being helpful or necessary. So my wife and I decided to reject the offer or demand made by the school because we wanted to put our trust in God.
After the rules changed and the State compelled us to accept the inoculation or not be admitted into the school, we prayed to God for understanding and that the inoculation, which was not desired, would do no harm to our kids.

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