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They teach with such conviction but have not a clue.

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Abednego:

--- Quote from: Rene on February 23, 2014, 10:50:41 AM ---I believe the deception is so great that some of these "prosperity ministers" actually believe that the more riches they acquire is a sign that their ministries are actually being "blessed" by God.

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Exactly.  Many of us have seen the videos of these ministers being questioned, but if you look you'll also see videos of the congregations being questioned as well.  Most of them stand behind the prosperity of their pastor for this very reason.

Now if some of them progress into ministry, of course they will still think the same way and make no excuses for the blessings that God bestows on them as well.

Although there are ministers today that know what they are doing, I believe there is a fair number that sat under this teaching before they started their own ministry.

John from Kentucky:
Make no mistake about it.

It's all about the money.  Show me any human work---religion, business, government, education---everything---they are all one thing----and I'll show you where the money is.

It's the golden rule.  He who has the gold, rules.  In this world, if you have money, then you're king of the world.  Without money, then you are nothing.

But, there is another Way coming.

se7en:
Moises you took the words right out of my mouth....

"just, WOW...

You read about it and you can't believe it. You watch images and you can't merely believe it. Is like a bizarre real time true movie"


Yeup.

loretta:

--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on February 22, 2014, 02:56:08 PM ---https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0

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Oh my gosh, you've got to see it to believe it!  I'd heard about such lavishness while in Christendom, but had brushed it away. I'd been suckered.  And I'm so ashamed to admit it. :(

Surely they've had their reward.

acomplishedartis:

I thought about giving a little change of direction to the conversation and ask, what other purposes do you guys

think that this deceived, pathetic, egocentric preachers have in God's plan... ?

Firsts purpose I can think about is to show us contrasts.

Another one is the necessary blindness of humankind for a while so that we realize that we are beasts and need salvation.

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