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They teach with such conviction but have not a clue.
rick:
Hi Moises.
You bring out a couple of excellent points.
We know God said He would send them strong delusion, I believe that the timing is for all generations (was, is, and will be )
I believe the multitude of people are greatly deceived and being carried further away from Christ by these evangelist.
I heard some of these evangelist say that Christ became poor so we could become rich, also I heard them say by His stripes we were healed.
I’ve read these scriptures myself but they are clearly taking them out of context. You know, most of the world population lives in poverty, and in the U.S. most people live from week to week and others day to day.
This nonsense they hear gives them hope of maybe living or having a better way of life, being able to provide things their family needs. These preachers are not interested in preaching Christ but rather using Christ for their own personal monetary gain.
The sad thing that I see is there are people who die as a result, absolutely they die, when they say by His stripes you are healed they believe it, give a love offering, then stop taking their medication they need and death takes place.
Others loose even the little bit they have believing He became poor so we can become rich and all they need to do is sow their gift and receive back 100 fold and the deception just goes on and on.
I think on the other hand that most if not all the t.v. evangelist are in it for the money, they cannot possibly believe what they preach.? Can they ???
Abednego:
--- Quote from: Moises G. on February 25, 2014, 03:55:07 AM ---
I thought about giving a little change of direction to the conversation and ask, what other purposes do you guys
think that this deceived, pathetic, egocentric preachers have in God's plan... ?
Firsts purpose I can think about is to show us contrasts.
Another one is the necessary blindness of humankind for a while so that we realize that we are beasts and need salvation.
--- End quote ---
Also, to remind me where I came from and it gives God yet another opportunity to point out when I'm judging others.
rick:
Hi moises,
Some other thoughts also, judgement is on the house of God at this time, and when His judgements are in the earth then the inhabitants will learn righteousness.
what I’m thinking is that we are the house of God and its we who are being judge, so its we who are learning righteousness at this time and so all these things like deception and all other forms of evil are for our benefit to learn righteousness .
Clearly this process is teaching us to hate that which is evil giving us the contrast of good and evil, so we will know good and evil which will make us like God.
How else can we judge the world in righteousness ?
arion:
I never watch Christian TV but the other day I happened across Daystar and what do you know but ole Binny Hinn [or Hinny Binn as I call him] was on. He had a talk show going and was interviewing another Christian guy selling health products and a lot of what the guy said made sense as I've come to some of the same conclusions on certain things myself. They mentioned the website and I took a gander at it and it was pretty much all multi level marketing with prices way the heck too high. The products might be o.k. but the guy is obviously more concerned about money making then helping people to get healthy and to make a small profit.
I turned the TV off and went to work. And then yesterday I turned the TV back on and it was still on Daystar. And lo and behold Mr. Creflo Dollar was on [Just love that guys name...how fitting, heh] and I was surprised that he wasn't talking about money but you know that things always have a way of getting back to that subject sooner or later. Creflo was talking about the garden of Eden and how good we would have it if Eve didn't sin, ect ect ect. Goes back into the same meme' that Adam and Eve screwed it up with their free will so on and so forth.
In the old days I would have to watch stuff like that for a long time in order to spot the error. It all sounds so good and wholesome to the ears. But these days I can spot the errors almost immediately. Like Ray used to say when he picked up a Christian book or paper that he could see heresy usually on the first page but sometimes in the fist paragraph and once in a while in the first sentence.
Obviously we're no better than the false teachers and they are necessary in the working out of God's plan. And although it's not a scriptural analogy [because Christ paid the penalty for sin] the thought flashed into my mind of the old 'Mr. Goodwrench' commercials. Remember those? The punch line was always 'You can pay me now or pay me later'. I'm glad for the desire to repent now of all these false beliefs and teachings. In this age God shows us a little about ourselves at a time and we repent as he shows us these things. Imagine standing before the Lord on that day thinking that your sins are forgiven you because you prayed a prayer at church, ect only to find out that you had not even begun to repent for the evil and wickedness inside of you. I'd much rather see the evil and repent now thats for sure.
Dave in Tenn:
Well put, Arion.
Moises, I think it's like this because this is the way God works. He's got greater things in Mind for His Kindred, and He never intended for us to naked and ignorant in the garden forever.
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