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rick:
Nearly every e-mail I read of Rays allowed me to see that Ray was a patient man in dealing with people who outright mocked him as well as cursed him.
I never saw Ray as a condescending man in any of his replies nor did he give his readers the impression of being an arrogant man.
I know Jesus called some people such as the pharisees and scribes hypocrites and snakes and other things because He was angry with their philosophy or belief system.
When Jesus stood in front of a man He knew both their heart and thoughts on the very spot they stood.
The bible says from the abundance of the heart does the mouth speak, but the bible also says judge not.
T.v. evangelist and those who belong to the synagogue of Satan are really blind, they don’t see clearly right now, I understand that.
This whole thing is about the beautiful plan of God’s salvation to all, its about being made into God’s image through an experience of good and evil, its about dying to self and all this is accomplished in God’s speed.
One can see the fruits of the spirit in Rays replies, I hope those who visit this website can see those same fruits in us also. :)
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: largeli on April 11, 2014, 04:39:54 PM ---I am not mocking anyone.. I read the link and it says that John Hagee as well as John from Kentucky and also Largeli are all related to God. Not figuratively or metaphorically. Actually descendants of The Creator God. Actual kin and family of God. John Hagee has been created in the image of God and I will love John Hagee if only for that reason. I will love him as myself and I forgive him also !
I read the link you provided and it encouraged me to love. If you read the paper and you feel encouraged to hate... Than I would suggest an examining of your own heart.
--- End quote ---
Mmmm... John Hagee is BEING CREATED (Ariost Tense) in the image of God. He is not as of yet, in the full image and therefor was not creatED (past tense) in the image of God.
onelovedread:
JfK,
If God hates sinners then we're doomed because there is no person beside Jesus who has not been a sinner.
I thought that God's plan to send His Son to shed His own blood was to save the world of sinners that He loves.
lareli:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on April 12, 2014, 03:37:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: largeli on April 11, 2014, 04:39:54 PM ---I am not mocking anyone.. I read the link and it says that John Hagee as well as John from Kentucky and also Largeli are all related to God. Not figuratively or metaphorically. Actually descendants of The Creator God. Actual kin and family of God. John Hagee has been created in the image of God and I will love John Hagee if only for that reason. I will love him as myself and I forgive him also !
I read the link you provided and it encouraged me to love. If you read the paper and you feel encouraged to hate... Than I would suggest an examining of your own heart.
--- End quote ---
Mmmm... John Hagee is BEING CREATED (Ariost Tense) in the image of God. He is not as of yet, in the full image and therefor was not creatED (past tense) in the image of God.
--- End quote ---
Good point, thanks... I still love him to pieces though ;) I (as well as all of us) was once as blind as John Hagee so to hate him would make me a hypocrite.
In the 'why god loves you' paper, reason #1 was that we are all related to God. Literally our geneology traces back to Adam and God. So John Hagee is my brother.. Not metaphorically or figuratively but actuall family.. (I'm just drawing a conclusion from Rays paper so correct me if I'm wrong).. The Bible says 'how can you say you love God whom you haven't seen and yet hate your brother whom you have seen?' And 'if anyone claims to love God yet hates his brother then that man is a liar'.. Maybe JFK is right and I lack a basic understanding of scripture in which case I humbly ask The Lord for wisdom and understanding.
Kat:
largeli, when reading the Scripture one thing that I consider is that when one of the Apostles calls somebody a "brother" they are referring to the believers they were teaching. So I look at the Scripture as instruction to the elect and they are the only ones that will understand of the spiritual message within it. The world can read the physical stories, but they are blind (just like we all are at first) to the spiritual message behind those stories.
When Scripture say that you must "hate" somebody it is in the relative sense or in comparison to something... look how it is used by Jesus Christ. I will make comments in blue.
Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his (physical) father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also (in comparison to their love for God), he cannot be My disciple.
v. 27 And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me, he cannot be My disciple.
v. 28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he may have enough to finish it;
Mark 10:28 Then Peter began to say to Him, Lo, we have left all and have followed You.
v. 29 And Jesus answered and said, Truly I say to you, There is no man that has left (from our old life) house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands for My sake and the gospel's sake,
v. 30 but he shall receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands (these are real physical things too, but are provided for our spiritual well being) with persecutions (comes with the 'spiritual' territory), and in the world to come, eternal life (the ultimate prize).
Just wanted to give you another perspective to consider. Hope it is helpful.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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