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Ashamed of my conduct
arion:
I really don't think this is too difficult. If God tells you to help someone than do that. If he doesn't tell you to help someone then don't. It's discernment and we're supposed to be able to hear the shepherds voice....are we not?
Abednego:
--- Quote from: cjwood on April 23, 2014, 04:22:16 PM --- i will go on record saying i agree with everything written in the email to me.
--- End quote ---
I would not say I agree with everything written. But I would not say disagree either. I would tweak a few statements before giving my stamp of approval. I have been watching this thread, and could only stand back and shake my head.
I didn't put in my two cents because I think laying the truth out here would violate the "do not bring a new teaching" policy to this forum. I'm not aware of any of Ray's teachings that have gone where this needs to. Although he came close when he was talking about carnality.
The only thing I can think of is Jack Nicholson shouting "You couldn't handle the truth".
Dave in Tenn:
Seems clear to me, Claudia, that it is indeed BOTH 'sets' he is talking to and about in Thess 3.
Makes Heb 4:12,13 "...for the reckoning of God is living, and working, and sharp above every two-edged sword, and piercing unto the dividing asunder both of soul and spirit, of joints also and marrow, and a discerner of thoughts and intents of the heart; and there is not a created thing not manifest before Him, but all things are naked and open to His eyes--with whom is our reckoning." that much more sensible, I think.
When His judgments are on the earth, the WHOLE WORLD will learn righteousness. Amen. Him that "works", and him that "doesn't work".
cjwood:
in re-reading thessalonians chapter 3 several times this evening, i still believe in this chapter paul is speaking to the believers at thessalonica only. not to any unbelievers standing on a corner somewhere asking for help.
some of the believers there were following the example paul and his men set of working for your own food, and others among their number of believers were not following paul's example of work, but were instead being idle busybodies.
so i guess i am not understanding how this particular scripture reference is speaking of the poor, lost souls standing on street corners asking for help. no matter what town, city, county, state, or country the corner is found.
yes, the poor and less fortunate, no matter how they got there, will always be among us. and yes, God's love will also always be present with us.
all glory and praise to God the Father of Christ Jesus our Saviour! :)
claudia
Dave in Tenn:
"...so i guess i am not understanding how this particular scripture reference is speaking of the poor, lost souls standing on street corners asking for help..."
Perhaps they aren't, Claudia...but as I said, I just wanted to get past the verse-slinging and dig a little deeper into the passage from which it was 'lifted'. Whether it applies to all the poor of the world or not, "If a man will not (has no desire to) work, let him not eat..." is NOT a commandment to the 'feeders'.
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