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lareli:
If your family want to go to church and even you for that matter, then go. When it is time for you to come out the Holy Spirit indwelling will make it so uncomfortable to listen to their rhetoric you will have to come out.

Kat are you sure you're not taking your experience and making it the rule for everyone? Are you assuming that I haven't 'come out' because I'm not as uncomfortable as you are in a church service?

Kat:

Hi largely,

Yes it is my experience, but I would not be an exception, the Holy Spirit would work the same way in all believers. If you believe what you are studying here is the truth, then you know the church does not teach the truth. When you come to a place where this truth/God is the most important thing, then you should realize that you have very little in common with those in church and certainly would find what they preach disturbing to your spirit. The church is very carnal mind and worldly...

James 4:4  Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

It will come a time when you will have to make a choice or at least you should get to a point when you can see the glaring difference in the truth and what the church teaches... why remain a part of that?

Mat 6:24  "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

Rev 3:15  I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
v. 16  So because thou art lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of My mouth.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

theophilus:
largeli,

As 'Ray said at the 2006 conference "the biggest blasphemers of God Almighty: the Church!" No matter how well they know the Bible, no matter how kind and caring they are, no matter how many good works they perform...if, at the end of the day, they still think most people are going to hell forever, they despise the word of God and blaspheme His name.'

I suppose that to hear 'christians' blaspheme your heavenly Father and His Name does not make you uncomfortable. To hear that God will condemn the majority of humankind to endless and indescribable torment and suffering should make you cringe and wiggle in your seat. They are assaulting the character of God and, in response, you shout a 'Praise the Lord' ? Hmmm!

It is to the degree that you reject these blasphemies that you will be ready to 'come out of her my people'.

I continued to go sporadically. But I realized that I could not continue to hear their lies and blasphemies. I had enough! They made me fume and wanted to rebut them, but I knew it would be useless. Honestly, they made me angry. But then I was reminded of their blindness.

May the Lord God continue to reveal His word to you.

Extol:
largeli,

 I don't think I'd feel terribly uncomfortable at church (I've actually gone once a year the past three years, when I'm visiting family out of state), but a church making you feel welcome and comfortable....that's the seduction of the harlot. If there were big screen TVs outside the doors showing people burning in fire and screaming in torment, it wouldn't be a very comfortable place, would it? Of course they don't want to show that, but it is what they believe.

 Granted, not all churches are "fire and brimstone," but they still teach eternal separation from God (or at least annihilation.) Actually, when they are not in-your-face hell preachers, it is even more seductive. C.S. Lewis, for example. I am a big fan of C.S. Lewis--not his theology, but his writing. He was an exceedingly learned man, very smart, and when he talks about hell, it can make a lot of sense to the carnal mind. He says (I'm paraphrasing) that God is not torturing anyone and does not send anyone to hell. Rather, hell is reserved for those who forever want their own way and not God's way. The people in hell say to God "MY will be done, not THY will be done" and God says "Okay, have it your way." And guess what? Being in hell does not change their minds! They are saying "MY will be done" for all eternity, thus God is just in keeping them there. Lewis rationalizes this and makes it seem not so bad. By not mentioning the fire and placing all the blame on the carnal man, human reasoning says "Yeah that makes sense!" This is the sweet seduction of the great whore of Babylon. But the bottom line is he despises the word of God, thinks God is a liar and Jesus is a failure.

 All major Christian denominations agree on that point: God is a liar and Jesus is a failure. None would say it in those words, of course, but it is a great blasphemy nonetheless.

acomplishedartis:

largely, if you would feel so confident about your opinion on the matter, then, I don't think you would have started this thread.

And you have got a lot of good answers... so far. I believe.

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