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why does God love you
dave:
"After some thought and soul-searching, I come to this conclusion in line with the scripture above: God's "hate" is better than my love. He did leave His glory behind,....."
Wow! I really appreciate that. "God's "hate" is better than my love. He did leave His glory behind,..."
His glory is our power to overcome. :)
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on June 28, 2014, 08:46:18 PM ---1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
The "foolishness" of God is wiser than men. The "weakness" of God is stronger than men. Is it a stretch to say the Love of God is greater than men?
And what about the "hate"? Given all the rest of Scripture and our faith in what God has done and will do "to" the world of sinners, is this not also part of His strength and wisdom?
After some thought and soul-searching, I come to this conclusion in line with the scripture above: God's "hate" is better than my love. He did leave His glory behind, humble himself and was obedient even to the death of the cross for sinners...I would in no way do that, and in addition can barely muster anything resembling a deep love for complete strangers.
--- End quote ---
Beautifully said Dave. Thank you!
ez2u:
yes that was quite a statement and true Dave. i was getting mixed up with the beginning of Rays teaching to glad i touch base with the group. went on to finish the teaching but the first part was an real eye opener. thanks for helping me see more hugs peggy
acomplishedartis:
I just finished that one, last week, it was like the four time I read it. It's one of my favorites, and for some reason I think this one would not be so hard to digest for somebody who comes in the first time.
God hates sin and sinners, God loves what we will all become, God loves us as part of His family, and God Loves you in particularity because you are original and beautiful in your own way.
indianabob:
Hi folks,
Please allow me to add just a little.
We need to be Oh so careful when defining hate and how God feels toward His imperfect little children; that God created to be exactly that way. Little brats....
I like to keep in mind that God sees us in a way comparable to how we see a one year old baby just beginning to walk and climb onto the breakable furniture and laughing at our discomfort while dropping fresh poop on our brand new carpet.
>:( ::)
It is not the baby's fault that we failed to put the diapers on any more than it is the pony's fault that they leave "road apples" along the traveled path and in front of the church parking space on Sunday for the whole congregation to view.
I don't agree that God does not love all of us in a complete way. God is not easily offended, actually not offended at all by the trespasses of a blind and spiritually deaf person and is very long suffering toward us; every minute of every day.
Especially since God does not immediately correct us the way a "parent" should.
It seems to me a contradiction to believe that we are as God made us and yet God loses His temper enough to "hate us" when we act like untrained little children, which we are.
Without a life time of active love from our parents and of course they weren't perfect either, and without the indwelling of God's loving spirit we cannot act otherwise; and God knows that.
Yes, I suppose that it seems true that God arbitrarily withholds His loving spirit from most of humanity during this first lifetime, but that is with a grand and loving purpose that those same rebellious children are not aware of. That fact certainly does not indicate that God "hates" us. To actually "hate" the way most people would define hate is beneath our loving creator God.
Just my view, Ole Indiana Bob
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